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Damn Youtube- do not put all your eggs in one basket

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Nick Flame, Nov 8, 2007.

  1. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Yeah, damn nervous tonight guys, i have not posted around here for a while just some laconic remarks and as some of you probably guess i have received a huge strike in my marketings techniques.
    The youtube changed their captcha, and this have a huge impact on my financial situation. For those who do not know, my old youtube comment script was able to break captcha, and i have made a lot of money with it but now it is almost over. Several weeks ago, i have received some youtube sueing threatening emails, but i was just ignored them. Coming from a different society than US,UK,Europe, and having advanced anonymous security techniques can save you a lot of trouble. Now it seems that the guys from youtube decided to play another card, and they have changed the captcha. The attempts so far to break it failed lamentably- if anyone knows any solution, hook me up.
    I knew that this change is going to happen, and i reacted quite fast, changing my script to an old version which was able to switch between users such that to avoid the captcha entering making use of the time limitation (one users posts 4 comments, takes a break several minutes, while in the same time other users are posting, then ha cames back and posts 4 comments again and so on.. ) This combined with an youtube account generator, and a small outsource to a indian to enter captcha all day long, still makes me some good amount of traffic. But i know that when the youtube will introduce captcha at every comment it will be over. And i have to prepare from now.

    Beside my rant, what it is to be kept in mind.

    - do not put all your eggs in one basket. This is crucially. Both in whitehat and in blackhat. If you put all your eggs in one bascket and you lose it, then it is a critical situation. Not because you can not start to build something again, of course you can, but it is the psychological factor coming into play. Imagine you have left your job for online work, and you have a wife, some kids, and your monthly expenses are like 4000-5000$ per month. You earn all of them from online, and everything is good. But something changes and you find yourself that you can not earn that amount anymore. What will you do? You try to earn using whitehat methods, everything from 0, and you see that you can not earn more than 10$ per day. Of course that in time, you can reach the same level as before again, but most people do not have the time to do this, and do not have the dedication. You earned online several grands a month and now you can understand to do the same effort as before and earn only hundreds.
    Lucky for me , this was not my case, my monthly expenses are 30-50 euros per month and i am serious (college, full scholarship covering everything including living on campus and food provided, no social life, why would you spend money on?)
    So do not put your eggs in the same basket, and try to diversify your online income streams. Hopefully for me, this youtube strike will be compensated by the adsense loophole system which i am applying this month. I remember having presented it in rj, i do not know how many people paid attention to it, very less, i had only one or two comments, but i encouraged myself to start working on it despite the fact that i am the only one who is thinking it will work, and i see that so far is going well.

    -second thing is that you should capitalize while the iron is hot. When one of your business is going well, do not think, oh yeah from now on i will have a heaven life. Things can and will happen. While you earn good, and a methods work, try to earn the maximum from it. Do not think, yeah i earn 300$ per day, if i squeeze a little bit more i can earn 400$ , but why should i do it? i wanna party, i do not wanna work anymore know, etc...
    This is not good business thinking. When you are making money, try to make as much as you can, and save that money, because there will come bad times, and you may need a lot of savings. Unfortunately, i was not able to do so. I remember i was sending 1000 uniques visitors targeted from youtube, people who were interested enough to write an url in their browser, and i was gettin paid only 1$ per 1000. That was one of my biggest mistake, now i can monetize the same kind of traffic with 30-40$ per 1000 uv. Not much, but anyway better. If i used to do this all the time i had my youtube script, i would probably be retired from now.

    -third thing is to know when to stop. When something is going well everything is good. Then something changes. You need to open your eyes and realize that something is not working anymore, and you should move to something else. Of course it hurts, it is very hard to comprehend that your magic money making system bringing you so much money without any effort is dead, but this is the truth. For some people there were the myspace times. I know some people who told me that they were marketing heavily on myspace, and after a huge upgrade on their security system- i do not know much about myspace marketing or myspace marketing history- they lost all their income source. They were unable to start working on something new, and they are still crying for the old myspace days when they were earning so much money. This should not happen. You realize a system is dead, go for something new. Do not try to cry over history, over old methods, over past. Open your eyes and enter the new wave of marketing. For me youtube is almost dead. I say almost, because i will still suck the last bit of traffic with the current script that i have, and i still do a lot of video marketing over there, but it will never be what was again.

    Respectfully,

    Nick Flame
     
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  2. bettyswollocks

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    i was making £5,000 a month from one affiliate program
    i left my £900 a month factory job and 2 days later the affiliate program closed.
    sods law.
    i have tried to make that sort of money online again but i only make between £350 to £600
    i have another day job now and ive learnt not to put all my eggs in once basket.
    all my online earning are going towards paying of the mortgage.
    i just make small niche sites now and go after low compertion related keywords
    hopefully i will find another affiliate program that will do as well
     
  3. eljugo

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    would you mind sharing your technique for bypassing/solving the previous captcha since it's no longer as valuable? I'm always interested in the technical aspects of how these problems were solved.
     
  4. Nick Flame

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    i have not done it myself, but my programmer did it. I am not to much of a technical guy, but what he showed me was that he was able to load or convert the original youtube captcha, into a black and white image, like the background of youtube captcha, that was usually multi coloured and was confusing the letter was not loading or has been converted into a complete gray colour, while the colors were complete black. I do not know how he did it, but this was the captcha that was appearing for us, not the usual multicoloured captcha, but this black and white image. Seeing that the letters were not distorted, and using the black-white contrast he was able to easily break the captcha.
     
  5. JinxY

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    wow... i didnt know the youtube comments could bring such a traffic... i was thinking no one will bother to copy/paste the url in a browser to check a site...
    and you are right about the savings, i save half of what i make and the other half i spend/reinvest.
     
  6. nova

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    precisely the reason why I say don't waste your time coding software to break captchas as it only takes one captcha implementation change and months of work go down the drain.

    The current youtube captcha is the same one that blogger uses and most blogger bypasses are done by breaking their audio captcha, which unfortunately isnt present at youtube ( I guess they figured the blind cant see video anyway eh:rolleyes: )

    I know of a russian guy who has a crack for the current captcha as well, but frankly its not worth the money.

    Way easier to hire people to create accounts for you and then rotate your accounts so you never get a captcha shoved in your face...

    http://tubeautomator.com/squeeze.php​
     
  7. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Well, if you know to put a damn good ad, and i guess i am pretty good at that, the visitors can't help themselves. It is like adwords, your ad displayed in front of people, but you just do not pay for it.
    The first captcha was very easy to break, you would not believe it, there was a glitch there.

    Yeah, i have an account creator, that s not a problem, i just have to write the captcha and the account is created automatically.
     
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    youtube delete 1 of my accounts real fast.why? i don't know
     
  9. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    what have you done with it? Videos, comment spamming?
     
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    i made an account real fast .I just set up my videos with a link to my site and when i log in the next day my account was suspended
     
  11. antirem

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    sorry to hear about the misfortune
     
  12. bazookajoe

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    Nick Flame's comment about not putting your eggs in one basket is true with many things in life. It's like being a star athlete, who just started making millions in the Pros, then gets a career ending injury.

    My friend made about $9,000 on a couple affiliate programs he was promoting on Google AdWords about 4 months ago. He was new at Internet businesses, and couldn't believe how quickly he was making money. He told me within a month, his business would be on auto pilot, and he was already searching for beach apartments to buy in a couple foreign countries.

    He started a couple other AdWords campaigns, and immediately more orders were filling his inbox everyday. I know they were real, because I would go over to his apartment, and as we talked for a couple of hours, MSN notified him of e-mail, and he would show me the PayPal and 2Checkout orders.

    He became overconfident, and started spending more less time in front of the computer, and more time partying. He normally checked his bank account every few days, but he stopped checking for a few weeks.

    When he started his new AdWord campaigns, he accidentally forgot to uncheck some options. That made his AdWords appear on many different unrelated sites. Within two weeks his bank account went from over $9000 to minus $580, because he had overdraft protection.

    He tried to explain that he made an error, but Google basically told him they understood his concerns, but they couldn't put the money back into his account. Yada, Yada, Yada.

    He, too, was relying on the Internet as a full-time job. I swear, he looked like he wanted to commit suicide, and lost all kind of weight, and was even too embarrassed to tell me about it, until two weeks later.

    Witnessing his experience, I have learned to keep working hard, don't slack off, and keep your eye on your money, even though you're expecting thousands every week, you could be losing thousands.

    BJ
     
  13. Gonka

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    This is such a good thread.

    Really speak out my mind.
     
  14. dingdongmerrily

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    good advice!! and so true..
    dingdongmerrily
     
  15. trakout

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    A conclusion to a story that I thought would be fitting:

    1. Diversify and protect your supply lines. Redundancy is the law of the military; you never want a single point of failure. In fact, that?s why the DoD invented the Internet. Even if you love Adsense, you should never have all your sites under the same Adsense code. Multiple Adsense Accounts + other PPC Engines + Affiliate Revenue makes it so that a hit to any one of your supply lines does not cause a total system failure.

    2. Troop Diversification. Did Alexander the Great have just light cavalry? Did William Wallace have only pikemen? Does the US Navy have only submarines? No! By spinning all your content from the same "45 sentences" (lmao), you go into battle with all the same type of troops. Don?t make that same mistake; build your sites from multiple content sources.

    3. Never give the enemy your battle plans or the locations of your troops. You think the landing at Normandy would have been as successful had we sent Hitler the battle plan and troop locations 2 weeks before the invasion? By using the same Adsense account and leaving such huge footprints, you might as well have sent Google this email every day:

    To: Google Spam Team
    From: Marketer
    Subject: Please Ban Me

    "Dear Google,

    I am spamming your index and using Adsense to monitize. Please ban my sites and Adsense account at your earliest convenience. Here is the complete list:

    [list of every site]

    -Marketer

    PS: Don?t Give up the Ship"


    Even if you?re not a serious marketer, there?s a good reason not to use the same Adsense account across your network of sites. Let?s say you want to interlink sites in your 300 site network. With all your sites on the same Adsense account, Google can and will discount the value of intra network links. Instead of a potential 299 quality backlinks, you?re probably looking at a value closer to several on site links (closer to Navigation links).

    Don?t lose the War do to tactical mistakes: Get multiple Adsense accounts and diversify your online income to other sources.


    I just have one question now: "Is using an IP spoofer good enough to use while obtaining multiple adsense accounts?

    You could just be really paranoid and use macaddress spoofing + different WIFI access points, in combination w/ Tor, or something to that extent.

    Or would it be overkill? lol when is too much overkill really considered overkill in this business?


    _trakout
     
  16. Yukinari84

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    this a great thread. a real eye-opener.
    I also had a friend that was doing great on Adwords, got over-confident, slacked off, and lost thousands due to the same error of unchecking options.

    I can't imagine the horror...:(
     
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    "i have received some youtube sueing threatening emails, but i was just ignored them. Coming from a different society than US,UK,Europe, and having advanced anonymous security techniques" hey nick can you give any helpful advice on security techniques
     
  18. mkdarling

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    If you have put your eggs in a basket and you lose that basket the feeling is overwhelming. I was overwhelmed when I lost $18,000....like, well, really overwhelmed and learned two things about working on the internet.

    1) Don't risk more than you can afford to lose...yeah the idea that you have to spend it to make it is right on target, but don't spend more than you can afford to never see again.

    2) Don't depend on any one thing to make ALL of your money. If it doesn't work out it may take you a while to come up with a back up plan and that will only add stress to your situation.
     
  19. Zso

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    Hey Nick, how is your youtube business going nowadays? I hope you got well with that.
     
  20. ImpulseHorizon

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    A couple days days ago I came across a blog post on how these 2 brothers lost $200,000 adsense earnings when google kicked them from adsense. Well duh, earning that much puts you into the red flag zone... so I have read that you can just create multiple corporations instead which cost $400~ each, boom as many adsense accounts as you want. Personally my mind works on point of failure prevention mode. :)