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Creating your own leads? Possible?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by darkcard, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. darkcard

    darkcard Newbie

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    With proper annoninmazation, wouldn't it be very possible to get away with this? If you have a personal proxy chain and are able to change your IP quickly and cheaply, shouldn't this be possible?

    Anyone do this?
     
  2. MrsE

    MrsE BANNED BANNED

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    sure it's possible but you WILL get caught & banned!
    If it was easy, everybody would be doing it!!
     
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  3. DutchRebel

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    you will be caught.

    the leads will obviously not convert, for your own sake, put your efforts in something else, and make some stable money for yourself.
     
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  4. darkcard

    darkcard Newbie

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    I'm new to black hat, but why wouldn't this work? I could cover up my CTR with crap visitors, and drive around neighborhoods with my computer and try and find unsecured networks and have at. Illegle? Yes. Trackable? Not that I can tell.

    I'm a novice in training to networking and brand spanking new to black hat. What makes leads convert also?

    Sorry for all the noob questions, but I'm trying to learn so that maybe I can create the next big thing for black hat, and give it back to the people.
     
  5. MrsE

    MrsE BANNED BANNED

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    LOL... If you're the next miracle man, find something else besides that!!! You will have tons of leads and no sales!! Sure they are from different places, but the affiliate needs to make $$$ not give it away!!

    Sorry boss
     
  6. izodos

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    its east to get caught especially if all leads are from same town/country and dont convert to sales ...
    maybe if you mix some fake leads with some legit you will have more luck not caught
     
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  7. darkcard

    darkcard Newbie

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    I'm not claiming to be the next miracle man I would just like to end up offering back to the community that I took from.

    Wouldn't most leads generated through black hat methods not convert to sales anyhow? I don't get paid per sale, what way is that to rat me out? If they paid me for sales, then leads and no sales would be pretty useless to them AND me.

    My idea exactly dzerv. I would make a white hat website circulated around generating leads to that website (in a semi-black hat way) added onto my own lead generations.

    What is the difference between the people I trick to getting a lead, and me getting a lead from another IP. It should all look the same tracking wise.
     
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    I think if all your leads come from the same area/town you'll get caught. Also I am wondering if they can track the MAC address of your NIC you cant change that, only way to change that is by getting a different pc or and a NIC card.
     
  9. gindama

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    This is fraud and if you are caught they can prosecute you. Just want to make sure you're aware of the danger of doing this.
     
  10. NX_NULL

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    Hi
    Is that possible to find out the MAC address by a website ?

    do you have any information that what websites or networks , Save their customers MAC address to track them ?
     
  11. bourder

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    It is possible but I would not do it. Too much risk...
     
  12. dynamicvb

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    It could be done since the mac is in each packet, but its highly unlikely to do it reliably since http is a stateless protocol. I've never heard of anyone doing it as it would require some sort of port mirror to capture the packets on the ack, syn, and syn-ack requests and make a copy of the packets. Then you would have to tie those back to a specific transaction and IP. On a busy site this would require a decent amount of processing power and bandwidth wghich would mostly be wasted cycles since most of the traffic will not be trying to rip them off.

    As far as not being able to spoof a Mac address, that can be done easily if you know what you are doing. If you want to learn how just google it. Of course I would think it would be a waste of time in this senario.
     
  13. The Giant Midget

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    ofcourse it is possible but they will eventually catch you.

    dont rely on it
     
  14. thomas

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    I think it's possible but not sure if it worth the risk,

    Anyways what you can do it use socks of different locations , make sure proxy/socks ports are as much possible very different.

    Clear cookies all the time.

    As for mac spoof, in windows you can use SMAC ( google it ) for spoof it.Or you can use virtual machines but that would be silly to create new VM for each shit u do just for the sake of mac add.

    In linux if i remember good you can simply do it with -macchange command , at least that's how it used to be on BT


    I think is possible,yet don't know if it's a good idea:rolleyes: