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Creating New Websites or Buy PR Expired Domains

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by IProvideSEO, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. IProvideSEO

    IProvideSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Hello,


    Has anyone created separate new websites that has unique relevant content just to create a link to your main website?


    Also, is it important to have different hosting accounts? I have heard arguments for and against IP diversity
     
  2. Laubster

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    Unless you are buying a high PR domain no there would be no reason to buy a new domain just to link to your money site. As for building a blog network, yes you should have no more than 2 high PR domains on the same hosting provider. SEO Hosting (different Class C IPS and nameservers) used to work, but Google caught on. Now you need to put your blog network on completely diff. hosting providers. It sucks, I'm having to transfer my network right now.
     
  3. lmxftw

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    where did you get this info ? are you saying that amazon keeps their websites on different hosts ? ebay ? i wonder how yahoo answers cope with this

     
  4. prab1996

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    i think those sites are on white list of google.

    for making a network from scratch you will need time.
    if you need it fast , but old domains.

    yes you will need to have your sites on different host. because google is fast than us.
     
  5. Martin1971

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    Hi,

    Mmmm much more easy is, buy aged domain, let's say pr3, buy one with high pa and da. Feed it a few weeks with handwritten fresh unique content, ad at least 1500 words on mainpage and make some innerpages with 500+ words content, fancy it a little up, ad some nice related pic's etc etc. Do some linkbuilding to the site, use you keyword 10 to 20 % and use brandname etc. After 2 or 3 month's 301 it to money site and sit back and wait :)

    (dont do to much 301-ing to you money site our google bot will catch you)
     
  6. lmxftw

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    google never said anything about building networks :) the only reason link networks and such as SAPE and link network users got bitch slapped was because of the obvious external linking and link selling/buying

    if you build your network and just link internally (within the network) you will be safe even if your network is on the same server with the same IP

    basically what you're saying is that if i have 10 websites and link them to each other and JUST to each other i will get penalized ... what if i have 10 versions of my website for 10 different languages and use footer links for each ?

    mydomain.com would have 9 footer links towards mydomain.cn, mydomain.fr, mydomain.de, etc ...

     
  7. prab1996

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    i think there is a option in webmaster to report paid links , if some one will report your site then you may have to pass the manual review and manual review will get out every link building you try.
     
  8. lmxftw

    lmxftw BANNED BANNED

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    how can i stop people from other websites to link to my website ? it doesn't make sense :) if this were the case i would just buy thousands of domains, link them to my competitors and report them

     
  9. prab1996

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    that is called neg seo , but mostly it not work .

    let me explain

    lolbhw.com is ranking on first for"lolbhw" from 5years. but then a asshole came and made site lolbhw.net . he was unable to out rank lolbhw.com , then he got 1k links from networks and reported it to google.

    google flags site for manual review -

    mattcutts check the site . after having a look at stats he found that lolbhw.com was ranking #1 from past 5years on other type of links and suddenly they got 1k network links without need. then he will just not value those links.

    THIS IS CALLED AUTHORITY AND DRIP-FEEDING . i will not explain more because this will help some noob to do "quality" neg seo.


    -prab-
     
  10. IProvideSEO

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    It seems like having hosting accounts on different servers is the safe way to go. But I sort of agree with lmxftw, because lots of large companies have all of their websites on the same hosting plan and they all interlink. The difference is that they are not trying to manipulate rankings. They just naturally wanted their websites linked together.

    My initial question could have been asked better and I will rephrase it here:
    Is it better to buy PR expired domains that can easily be over 1k for just 10 websites, or should I invest time and energy into purchasing 50 brand new domains and trying to increase the DA and PA of those sites so that in the future I have automatic websites to link to?

    So far, I have built over 15 websites, some are 6 months old some are 3 months. All 15 of the websites have a PR of N/A but all have unique content and backlinks.
     
  11. maheshsingh

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    Definitely having accounts at different IPs will be better if not now, ion the longer run.