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Creating a website, new to this and in desperate need of help!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Wolfpack, Jul 15, 2011.

  1. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Junior Member

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    This is my first time I've ever created a website, and I figured it'd be a good
    place to start earning money online, considering the whole damn WWW is
    made of sites. However, I have no idea how to create a website that will
    actually succeed - I can create a good domain, add content and make it all
    look pretty, but I understand that that doesn't convert into money. So, where
    should I begin? If anybody could suggest any articles and any reading
    material to start off with, I would be grateful.
    I would also be grateful if anybody could offer me the priveledge of a mentor
    (I know that sounds like something from karate kid, but I'm for real!),
    somebody who has experience and somebody that can tell me where to place
    my roots to start understanding and gaining the knowledge which would be
    converted into experience, and hopefully into some green.
    Links to threads, websites, books, or posts that outline where to start are all
    appreciated - i'm looking myself ofc, but I know that you all have far more
    know-how than a newbie like me.
    Thanks!
     
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  2. altjx

    altjx Regular Member

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    Great post man, you're speaking for me as well =).

    Hope you don't mind me learning off of you if anyone responds to this thread. When people are referring to sites (even yourself), are you just going with a webhost such as hostmonster and just starting a site there?

    The reason I'm asking because I remember awhile back my uncle was telling me he made a site, but it had like a lot of advertisement on it. I just ignored it as it wasn't anything interesting at the time.
     
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  3. Kharis

    Kharis Regular Member

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    The best advise I can offer is to read this thread
    HTML:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/310209-journal-method-spoonfeed-crashed-challenge-30-days-money.html
    Crashed goes through everything and if you have any questions as you go just ask.

    Make sure you give it a go before jumping in with the questions though :)
     
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  4. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Junior Member

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    Any websites with anything but your own content is probably free site (.tk domains I think have some sort of ad banners? for example); they use the ads to profit off of the site you make as part of their service. Godaddy offers the service of your own domain, with an area of server space that is dependent on the plan you choose with them (the more expensive plans will have more desireable options - bigger RAM, hdd size etc, just like a pricier computer, that can respond more quickly, host more files and all that). They will not have any content that you have not placed on them. Any advertisements on sites you own will be put on there by yourself, and generally the revenue you make from the adverts is dealt with by companies such as Google on seperate services (i.e. adsense).
    And ofc I'll be happy to help with anything I've learnt, but I'd look to individuals who are way more experienced than me for advice, they'll be able to hopefully give you much more sound advice than somebody like me, whose only just begun :)
     
  5. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Junior Member

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    That's looking good already, thank you very much :) I'll pm you with questions, only if that's okay with you, just to save any cluttery posts on the thread.
     
  6. altjx

    altjx Regular Member

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    Thanks, lol. I've actually had my own site (I provide network support) with HostMonster and I have for 1.5 years. I've had Google Adsense on it for about a year but I've only made somewhere around $30 with Google Adsense; that's despite all the customers that come through.. I eventually took the ads off of it since it didn't attract many customers anyhow. After learning about this site I'm fully interested in trying harder to make more into it.

    Thanks to the guy up there for the link. Looks pretty good and I'm excited to see this is an all-in-one tutorial. I was hoping I didn't have to search this site for piece by piece to the puzzle :D
     
  7. zach8109

    zach8109 Newbie

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    Well I personally believe webs is a good place to start playing out your ideas and getting them laid out, its also free and doesn't really require too much web design knowledge. But you have to get a sub domain. If you know a little bit then I would suggest looking into some tutorials for using Adobe Dreamweaver, great program and it has some great built in templates if you are low on ideas.
     
  8. altjx

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    Yep. I personally use Joomla. I only mention this since Joomla is probably one of the easiest ways to manage websites. I'm unsure why anyone would disagree. It's simply installing it and adding the content. Templates are simple, you just google a joomla template, download the zip, go to the joomla administrator panel, upload it, apply it. No HTML knowledge necessary.
     
  9. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Junior Member

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    altjx, that last post may be a lifesaver, I was planning doing it all from scratch, but that sounds a lot better. My knowledge of adobe PS should come in handy for design work too. Thank you for all replies so far, I will be digging deep into the 30 day challenge, and I'll be playing with all the programs mentioned in the thread so far very soon. I feel like this is off to a good start! So let's just hope I don't fail my first projects too hard for now :)
     
  10. altjx

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    No problem man. I've managed my site with Dreamweaver using simple HTML for like 6 months until a friend introduced Joomla to me. Lord did that tremendously improve my website. There's lots of extensions for whatever you want man.

    Let me know how you do, I will go for this 30 day challenge as well. :)
     
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    I agree, Joomla is great especially if you are building a complex site and need solid/flexible extensions. With the right extension you can create unique and dynamic titles, page addresses, etc. The only really bad thing is the more complete plugins are more stable under version 1.5, which requires some slight (very easy) hacking to get SEO friendly urls. Could be kinda scary for a newbie..

    With that being said, I personally feel WordPress is a more SEO/newbie friendly out of the box. That fact that it takes better to templates and has less menu bugs helps too... lol

    I always find myself having an easier time ranking a WordPress site over the same type SEO optimized Jooma site with their respective keywords. The ranking aspect could just be in my head though.. As an "I.T. Guy" at heart, I can't think up a technical reason that could actually be true with the ranking. just my 2c.

    :D
     
  12. altjx

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    Haha, great post. I've never tried WordPress. I'll have to give it a shot too. Thanks for that recommendation =). I've fell in love with Joomla and I completely agree. Without backwards compatibility, the newer installation of Joomla can be pretty annoying with plugins. Depending on the situation, it may be better to get 1.5.x. Someone mentioned to me there's a plugin to allow backwards compatibility but I haven't been able to confirm it.
     
  13. Wolfpack

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    Unfortunately I've already been introduced to Wordpress by the 30-day challenge, but otherwise you would have been the first to introduce me to it. It looks fantastic and extremely easy to implement. And to think I too was gonna crack the CSS HTML and Javascript books, haha. Thanks for all these replies, they should help me on my way.