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Creating a small blog network - Need advice

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by rankjuice, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    Hi guys

    I am currently creating a small blog network (10-20 blogs) to kickstart my new authority site.
    The domains are coming from expired domains and I am on a really tight budget so I will be using the 2 hosting accounts I already have plus a load of free ones. But first, can someone please give me some advice:

    firstly, how many domains should be the maximum on each host?

    secondly, I am targeting about 10 main keywords on my site, how many links max, should I point to my site from each domain? im thinking it would not be wise to target each keyword with each domain. correct? or say I have 10 blogs on my network, should I just target 1 keyword per blog?

    Please help

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  2. isabellamelendez

    isabellamelendez Regular Member

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    I suggest 3-4 blogs per hosting account, 3:1 ratio on articles with outbound links, interlink articles(you could do it using a wordpress plugin), limit posts on homepage to 10 below and treat/build your network like you build your money sites.. My network is runnin for around 8 months and all are still indexed.. :)
     
  3. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    a 10-20 site network isn't nearly big enough to support just one site. Once you drop a link on each site thats it. So all you'll really get out of it is 10-20 links in the eyes of G.

    I have/had a 120 site network and I'm slowly moving them over to FBN. That gives me access to approx 30 sites for each site I put it. Much more powerful.

    (the banner below is an affiliate - heres the link to the sales thread http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-back-blog-networks-have-evolved-5-trial.html)

    If you plan to use the network as a mini authority network, rank them and get traffic that way ignore what I just said.
     
  4. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    thanks for the info guys. I dont think i will be joining fbn just yet as i want to carry on building my own over time (i wont be stopping at 20). Upto now i have 2 x pr1 blogs, 1 x pr2, 2 x pr3, 2 x pr4 and 1 x pr5. do you guys think i should just have 3 links on each? 2 links to a keyword and 1 to my homepage?

    Also. I have not done any backlinking yet to the site as im having proxy troubles, so im starting off with these sites until tomorrow. should i just use my main keywords as anchor on these blogs and diverse with other backlinks? (basicly, keep the high pr links as target keywords). or would it make no difference?
     
  5. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    anyone?
     
  6. rankjuice

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    just added 3 more pr4's and a pr 5 to the list :p
     
  7. pokerjk

    pokerjk Senior Member

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    If its a new site I'd build brand / URL anchors first but use keyword citations around the links. New sites you have to be careful to do it the right way from the off.
     
  8. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I wouldn't even waste your time with such a small network. As PartyMarty said, you only get a few links. You're better off buying a few guest posts and saving the money and headache.

    Definitely 1 site per host, if you can't afford 1 shared hosting plan per site, your plan is fatally flawed.
     
  9. myownhero

    myownhero Power Member Premium Member

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    You should put as many domains on each host as there are unique class c IPs.

    And in terms of keyword targetting, I'd stick to 1-2 links per blog post and 1-2 blog posts per blog.

    Grats on the domain grabs btw, be sure they're real PR though alot of people who go the expired domains route often buy sites with inflated PRs.
     
  10. FatSteve

    FatSteve Regular Member

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    You can host all your 10-20 blog network on hostnine dot com basic reseller account and get about 20 class C or better IP addresses. Easy peasy. $24.95/mo

    Secondly, you will need a software to manage content, anchor, keyword variations, schedules, drip feed, curation and all in one place to manage whole network - naturally, I suggest BlogSeries - 77$/mo for a close friends.

    If you are interested, hit me up PM, I am one of the owners of BlogSeries which is the leading content management software for private blog networks. Can hook you up with a good deal.

    Best regards,

    Andy a.k.a. FatSteve

    P.S.

    The software does include a private 1 on 1 couching via Skype. Some say this alone is worth paying the price + we have a great Skype channel for all the members.

    Andy
     
  11. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    My main goal is to build the network up to around 100 domains that I can use as I please for all my sites (100+ high pr links must be a good start for a site, right?). I would rather spend my money on these instead of guest posts as I will have 100% control over these links without having the hassle of contacting each site owner if I need links removing.

    I am also going to be using all of the free hosts I can find to host them plus a few cheap shared hosts (or maybe seo hosts)

    thanks for the info. All sites have real PR and I have looked at the backlink profiles for all domains to make sure they have good, non spammy links. I also only buy recent ones that the homepage is still indexed (but showing godaddy meta info) to make sure that I have not bought any that have been de indexed before

    I will take a look at that host. As for management, I am just uploading posts via scrapejet addon for now
     
  12. FatSteve

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    Host is good if not the fastest, as for scrapejet - seriously, BlogSeries can do WAY better than that. That's how it works on iPad....

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  13. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    All i need to do is uploading ready made articles for backlinks and scrapejet suites me fine for this. This network is only going to be used for a few small projects so I dont think I will need that much management. Maybe once it gets bigger then I may consider it but for now, I dont think I will need it
     
  14. Moriarty79

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    This is where I went wrong when I started the blog network building game. I bought some expired domains that did seem to have reasonable backlink profiles from what I saw in Majestic SEO. I also did check if they were in Google's index. I found none of them were indexed but I put that down to the fact they had been deleted a few weeks ago. If a domain expires and therefore gives a DNS error in your browser, you would expect it to get deindexed regardless.

    A couple of months after setting up the blogs 80% of the domains were still deindexed. So I guess they actually had been deindexed previously due to abuse by the last owner. Its not too easy to tell though whether an expired domain is deindexed simply because it has expired, or because of previous abuse.

    Is there a way of telling when a domain was last present in the Google index? And then compare this to the expiration date? That way, if the domain disappeared from the index before it expired you can be fairly sure you don't want to reregister it.
     
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    Use the info:<url> operator in Google to tell if a site is indexed or not. Now go kill Sherlock!
     
  16. FatSteve

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    If you use common sense and look for bit more aged domains instead of jumping for PR you might find a great matches!

    In my experience after doing this for a year - 75% chance of retaining PR-1 and 50% chance of retaining original PR... basically, mostly I get PR2 instead of PR3.

    Still worth a game considering 11$ per domain.


    As for your experience - hey, watch what you are buying, there is archive org that allows you to see what the frack was on that site - very very useful. + use all the link and domain tools to determine backlink amount, domain authority/etc.


    It is worth doing, just need to wrap your head around this game.

    Regards,

    Andy
     
  17. Moriarty79

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    Was this aimed at me? If so, did you read my post? Of course I know how to check if a site is indexed or not. I said that I was buying deleted domains and hence all of these will be deindexed. You cannot tell the reason for this though. It could be deindexed because it has expired or it could be deindexed due to previous link spam.

    If you were replying to someone else, ignore this.
     
  18. Moriarty79

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    Without wanting to get into an argument, as with the last poster, did you read what I said? I didn't even mention PR. I am buying deleted (not just expired) domains and examining only the link profile before buying. I am basing the decision to buy on a good number of high quality backlinks and a lack of spammy backlinks.

    So saying "look for aged domains" really has no relevance to what I was asking.

    I was asking how to determine on what approximate date a domain was deindexed by google. It may be this is impossible, but that is what I was asking.
     
  19. FatSteve

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    ye, I sort of understood that aged means PR... in my case, same deal - I go or authority/age instead of PR.

    Still, out of 300 domains I purchased in 2012, one never get indexed and one got same hosting account as I did - had to move it elsewhere...fraking feng shui homes.....

    Again, after careful choice I get better than 50/50 chance of retaining original PR nevermind indexing the G... I usually get PR3 cgi-bin/ folder before I set things up.... So you must be doing something weird on your end to have such bad results.

    Andy


    Andy
     
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  20. Moriarty79

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    Thats a much better success rate than I had so I am still not sure what I need to change. Possibly I need to raise my standards concerning what is a 'good link profile'.

    I would also have thought, if Google were at all reasonable, they should realise when a domain has expired and then been registered as new by a different person. That is probably asking far too much from them though.

    I forgot to mention I agree with what you said about archive.org in your earlier post and I also do this. If there was a splog on it 3 months ago then obviously I won't buy.