CPAEmpire Scam and hexatrack

This is a quote from scubaslick, which he posted on this thread:

Well he did a pretty good job of outting the cpae site.

It's a crappy blog with about 8 posts on it. Of course the theme and the privacy info has all been changed now, and it runs through valueclick instead of cpae to a totally different offer, but what I'd like to know is if this is a "copy" of a website that was making $1000 a day on a $1.10 email submit, where in the hell were they promoting it?

I'm not sure I believe this is the whole story, in spite of Richter's past.

It looks to me like there may be a publicity stunt in the works here. I'm not sure how it helps CPAE yet, if at all, but something's just a little too convenient here. Something's going viral all right. I'm guessing Hexatrac's Alexa ranking will seriously spike over the next couple of days.

I'm just sayin.(QUOTE)

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I don't often publicly knock a company but a spade is a spade.

I'm not saying hexatrack set this up but those boys appear to be in over their heads.

A group of us joined hexatrack a couple months ago and since then it appears to be going to hell in a hand basket.

the software was eratic, and the hexatrack forum which boast over 8,000 members never had more than 3-5 posts a day, with one post always consisting of "why can't I log in".

Their other "private forum" - affiliate uprising - (Which is apparently closed now) never had more than two posts a day and that was from the same guy asking the same thing over and over.

We started complaining because Larry and Amish were no where to be found.

Seems they got the money for hexatrack and launched google googles which appears to be as unreliable as their hexatrack software.

For over a month their moderator would try to hold the peace by promising everything under the sun when they got around to it... they never got around to it.

The point of this post is - I believe hexatrack is trying to drum up publicity by exposing cpaempire.

These guys took a lot of people's money and then dropped us like hot potatoes.

I am not saying scubaslick believes hexatrack is at fault, I am saying he is looking at a bigger picture and may see something odd. I am not speaking for him.

If true I am glad Amish exposed those guys, but unfortunately coming from hexatrack I believe the only thing they were looking to do was help themselves,

Beware of hexatrack.

Just to be clear I am not now nor ever have been involved in ANY way with hexatrack. I'm not a member of the group mentioned or have any axe to grind other than that my bullshit meter was pegged. Up there near the "Brad Pitt is actually a straight man, but left Jennifer Anniston" level of bullshit.

My post was because Amish just seemed a little too keen to pump hexatrack during his "crisis." He even said something like, "They're doing this all wrong and going to get google slapped. We teach you how not to do that in our premium section." blah blah blah.

It all just seems a bit too easy to me and although I have no idea who the hell Amish is and haven't had anything to do with Hexatrack, he OBVIOUSLY has no problems with self-promotion, regardless of whether his allegations are true or not.

That's all I was trying to say. For the record.

-scuba

Don't know all the behind the scenes goings ons.

But am glad to be made aware of possible and actual scammers

Thanx for the info

Agreed Scuba. That asshat complaining on WF definitely was trying to incite something like the ClickBooth shitstorm last year to his advantage. ... not that there's anything wrong with exploiting a circumstance, but he was trying to drag the forum owners into it.

PLUS, his video was lame. How in the hell would anyone be able to tell that the websites were identical if both of them were completely obscured because he didn't want to give away his landing page secrets?

I'm sorry, but if you are being scammed at that level and are serious about taking action, you call an attorney rather than post histrionics to WF and YouTube. THEN you can alert your fellow affiliate marketers.

I've not read CPAE's response to the histrionics yet, but as scummy as that owner is he's got a side of the story too, IMO.

My question is that if he has such awesome landers that he didn't want the network to see, why didn't he cloak or blank his referer?

He's an ignorant marketer for not knowing networks will take your campaigns and run to the bank with them. And who cares if you make $1k gross in a day(he didn't even state his net), that's not that much. This guy is a noob among masters at bhw i'm afraid...

WhiskerBiscuit said:

My question is that if he has such awesome landers that he didn't want the network to see, why didn't he cloak or blank his referer?

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I understand the issue to be, as explained in the original video submitted by the affiliate, that he couldn't reveal either his landing page or the hijacked page in the video to the viewing audience because his landing page was too precious to show. I didn't hear that he hid it from the network, although I could be wrong in my understanding of the case.

It was kinda funny because both landing page versions were almost totally obscured in the video, so there was no way for the observer to make a comparison. He kept saying in the video VO something like "... and you can clearly see that the pages are identical ..." and I was saying to my self "no I can't see it clearly. I can't see anything on either screenshot, apart from a few pixels on each margin."

its "other" story about cpa network