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CPA Scammers!! LOL - a must read!

Discussion in 'CPA' started by nimbus49, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. nimbus49

    nimbus49 Elite Member

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    My wife purchased one of my CPA offers thru my website.

    This was not a pathetic attempt by me to get another commission, but for my wife to get a free trail offer, for $5.95.

    Stated in the terms and conditions, the card would be charged $79.95 after a 14 day period.

    It's been only a few days and the morons charged the card $79.95 and the product has not been delivered.

    WTF?? This is a product that I am promoting, on and off-line.

    Look, I am involved with CPA to make money, but I'd hate to think that all these cpa companies will do this to all my buyers.......maybe some will, maybe some won't! I guess the terms and conditions don't really apply.

    Who the "F" knows!Or maybe it's just N*v*r-B*ue!

    FYI - the Bank told me who the issuing company was, and I cannot get thru to them.....on hold twice for 1/2 an hour!
     
  2. low key

    low key Junior Member

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    nah. but thanks.
    Yeah you have to access a password protected sub directory to read the real terms. Where it specifically says that 14 days is the new instant.
     
  3. kimkils

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    Was this an Acai Berry Offer? Or a Get Rich Quick type thing?

    I'm stating to advertise these offline and i agree i dont want people to get ripped off but at the same time i want money... :(

    Cookie stuffing is one thing, you just rip the large companies off a little unnoticeable bit
     
  4. nimbus49

    nimbus49 Elite Member

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    It was for a colon cleaning product.
     
  5. thefallendevelopment

    thefallendevelopment Junior Member

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    Yes these things are horror stories.

    My stepdad recently purchased a green tea (similar to the acai scams) supplement to lose weight. After i saw the bottle i knew instantly he was going to get screwed, but he assured me it was a trial and only had to pay $5.95 shipping and he canceled a day after ordering. About 3-4 days later he found out they hit his account twice for $69.

    After hearing about it all i was like damn...why couldn't he have done this through my affiliate link.
     
  6. blinger

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    advertising offline..hmm, sounds like a good idea.. care to share some of your tips/strategies for local off-line advertising of CPA offers? A PM will work if you don't wish to disclose it all to BHW ;):D
     
  7. kimkils

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    Damn... that's bad, if she canceled it she shouldn't have had to pay!

    They're cheeky i'll give them that. I'm sat here debating whether to go for adverts in newspapers, i can get a week advert in my local paper in the health and beauty section with only one other advert for £2, yes that's right :\

    If people complained to the newspaper could they then blame me and come after me? I could simply say i was an affiliate and know nothing of the billing arrangements.

    What does everyone think? Safe to do?
     
  8. multimedia

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    you were just the middleman kimkils :), they may sue fu*king NEVERBLUE :D
     
  9. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I hate to say it but you should have known this already.

    Even if they waited 14 days it is basically impossible to ever get your cancellation, they will keep you on hold all day. I thought everyone knew this, how else would free trial offers be able to pay you so much?

    PS Credit card chargeback is the way to go...
     
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  10. silent_thunder

    silent_thunder Regular Member

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    Wow!! Thats bad, recurring sales will be history if customer service is like this
     
  11. xenoxen

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    I guess you can ALWAYS chargeback from a CC company and u will get them money back.. so they are not lost - u will get them but this is how CPA companies work.. if u won't chargeback and u will forget or even didn't notice that they charged you - they earned money :) that's how they earning ...

    hope your wife will get back money.
     
  12. kimkils

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    ^ Do you reckon this attitude will fly :) ?

    I hope so, i agree i would simply say "im just an affiliate, dont blame me!" but more professionally :p
     
  13. betster77

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    I'm pretty sure neverblue doesnt allow offline advertising of their offers directly. I mean you can advertise your site and have a banner there, but not the offer directly. So if complaints were to happen, I'd be more worried about getting banned by the CPA and losing commissions.

     
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    If you bought this with a debt card, you can call the bank's customer service phone number and explain how they won't communicate etc and they'll give you you're money back.
     
  15. kimkils

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    Ok so the best would be domain.com --> CPA Redirector/whitehat domain --> Affiliate Link

    I messaged them asking if it was ok, we'll see what they say... :)
     
  16. andre09

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    The problem would not be them tracking it back, but rather a ton of local IPs doing your offer. Either they would realize it is offline marketing locally, or you are paying a bunch of neighbors to fill out your shit :)
     
  17. im n0t lurer

    im n0t lurer Regular Member

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    yup thats what im doing, DO NOT MENTION CPA REDIRECTOR to you affiliate manger.. haha :p

    and thats shitty isn't that illegal? if you live in the us just sue them haha :p
     
  18. dominodivine

    dominodivine Newbie

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    This is how they make money... hoping that the person does not cancel this is why google makes you pay so much if you promote these offers via adwords.

    Because this is not new this is how most free offers work either they bill you quickly or they keep sending you the product making it hard to cancel.

    Find something else to promote if you are unhappy with the merchant tactics.
     
  19. CiscoKid

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    About 6 months ago I was promoting a goog cash offer. Someone I knew did it and I got paid. They then went to cancel and went the terms page and got the phone # for customer service. The number was bogus. It was also the same # on the companies whois record..

    This offer was from H*dra who I consider one of the more reputable ones so I contacted my aff manager and asked if they realized they were promoting a total scam offer from a scam company.. She could care less. The offer is still on their site and the cust service # is still bogus.

    As I told my friend, as I tell everyone when this happens. Make 1 call / email to cancel then call your credit card company and tell them it is an un-authorized charge. The company never refutes these because they do not want to share the details with any credit card company
     
  20. junkie4boost

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    This sounds exactly like what happened to me when I completed a trial offer from XM Brands (it was a RezV trial). Except instead of $79.95, I got hit for $139.95. I called them 10 times a day for 3 days before the end of my trial. Each time the line went dead after 5 seconds. I never even got the trial product until 3 days after the end of the trial period.