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CPA offers and VCC, risky?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by cheesecake, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. cheesecake

    cheesecake Regular Member

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    Ok.. the guys who know what I'm talking about.. know why I'm asking about this..

    any potential risk? The late ******** said once not to do it...
     
  2. Entrepreneur

    Entrepreneur Regular Member

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    I think you'd be banned quicker than you could say, "Damn, that was a fucking stupid thing to do." :)
     
  3. cheesecake

    cheesecake Regular Member

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    hehe.. lot's of ebooks talking about this method..
     
  4. cparainmaker

    cparainmaker BANNED BANNED

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    Yeah because they can't make money doing it, so they make a retarded ebook about doing it. Your going to get banned, it's pretty easy to see that leads are coming from prepaid credit cards, especially when none of them convert when being rebilled.
     
  5. donutking

    donutking Registered Member

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    The other bad thing about using VCC's its that its illegal and i think its a felony if you are using other people's real names and addresses.
     
  6. robbie foster

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    VCC frauds can be caught easily, maximum VCC's are expired after 24 hours and when merchants will bill them after free trail is over none of it will convert for them.
     
  7. AffGuy08

    AffGuy08 BANNED BANNED

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    Using Debit Cards can make it a bit sweeter.... only a bit :)
     
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  8. cnwelf

    cnwelf Regular Member

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    agree with affguy08

    he is right
     
  9. cyrix

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    like some have said when they try to bill those VCC's and they are all denied thats gonna throw some serious red flags. You wont get paid and you will definitely get banned.
     
  10. jake3340

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    Only if you do around 2 VCC submissions a day and mix it in with organic leads will it work.
     
  11. kingdom

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    You wont get paid
     
  12. 18turbo

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    You can combine them with ppc traffic.
    Also if you offer the vcc as a incentive to someone to fill the offer with they're info, it doesn't matter if it won't be rebilled when the trial finishes because they will call or email the person to chance the information.
     
  13. mrewen

    mrewen Newbie

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    hmm i wonder if you have noticed that all vcc have the same 4 digits...
    i guess its 8076 or so...
    so dont you think it will be easy to get caught... i thought it over and over and planned it very will still this loop whole is hard to get over...
    i tried 2 vcc merchants both had same vcc numbers!
     
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    whats a way to do it then? nothing can be done about it? just suck it up and ppc?
     
  15. Black Hat Seo

    Black Hat Seo BANNED BANNED

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    Most trial merchants are scams, and ironically thats how they catch you scamming them :) They usually charge the customers card again within 7-10 days from the lead submission, so they quickly have a list linked back to you showing all fraud.

    White hat CPA is sooo easy though guys, if it wasn't I could see all the effort to try and make fake leads look legit. I'm doing $12000 to $16000 a day net with my eyes closed on white hat CPA right now and i'd be doing 100k if I wasnt focused on other projects I feel will pay off in the millions of dollars per month.

    People eat up these trial offers, just be creative.

    Seeding is one thing, that's when you mix in blackhat leads to make up for all the white hat ones you lose in the mix through shaving, dropping, etc, but in all seriousness the same effort put into whitehat CPA will be so much more rewarding.
     
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  16. donutking

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    Wow, that is awesome. Are you doing PPC or other mainstream whitehat tricks or did you create something yourself? You are an inspiration..
     
  17. july23

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    Damn! even if i open my eyes 24hrs i won't earn 12k $ whew..

    :jaw:
     
  18. Black Hat Seo

    Black Hat Seo BANNED BANNED

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    A lot of what I have coming in each day now is offline advertising, I've temporarily dialed down the online stuff because I need to bring in more staff to manage the daily traffic buy campaigns and i'm focusing more on doing tests for DIM members at the moment to build that brand over the next few months.

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    Fear of success is the number 1 reason most of the people on this forum and the world and general cant make any real money.

    There's a lot to be said for the simple life, I know when I got my first taste of real money I freaked out and ended up losing it because I wasnt mentally prepared for success, it immediately makes you paranoid with fear of loss, not believing you deserve it, not believing you are smart enough to maintain it, etc.

    Renting a $600 a month apartment or a $1200 mortgage on a house feels safe, a job feels safe, routine feels safe, but that first big step up is always terrifying.

    I bet there is a ton of members right here on this forum that know exactly what im talking about, members here that ended up generating an amount of money they never thought possible on something, then they almost immediately committed success suicide and are right back to nothing again.
     
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