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Court Holds Kim Dotcom Warrants Invalid!

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  1. CyberknightTully

    CyberknightTully Junior Member Premium Member

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    The Kiwi Keystone Kops didn't get it right!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18623043

    "28 June 2012 Last updated at 07:55 GMT

    Megaupload raid warrant 'invalid', New Zealand judge says

    The search warrants used to raid the home of Megaupload owner Kim Dotcom were invalid, a New Zealand judge has ruled. Action by the FBI to copy data and take it offshore to the US was also deemed unlawful.

    "The warrants did not adequately describe the offences to which they related," High Court judge Justice Helen Winkelmann said.
    Mr Dotcom was arrested, along with four others, in January.

    Millions of dollars in assets were seized or frozen including almost 20 luxury vehicles, dozens of computers and art works.
    However, Justice Winkelmann said the warrant for the search fell "well short" of outlining Mr Dotcom's alleged offences. "They were general warrants, and as such, are invalid," she said.

    In response to the judge's decision, New Zealand police said they were in discussions with Crown Law "to determine what further action might be required".

    Mr Dotcom's site was said to have made $175m since 2005 by copying and distributing copyrighted material without authorisation. The site's lawyers have said Megaupload simply offered online storage.

    Mr Dotcom is currently on bail."

    Kim Dotcom is going to walk!
     
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  2. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Good. Why don't they go after some real criminals for once?
     
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  3. steelballs

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    Great News that the arrest was a bogus Witch Hunt!

    Now the worm will turn and sue the Feds!

    GO KIM GO :)
     
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  4. ben10023

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    I really want to see his megabox project that got them all so worried..
     
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    With all the press coverage, if Megaupload ever come back online, it will make a killing !
     
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  6. Leith

    Leith Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I doubt it will be back, but who knows?

    But he's doing good so far :)
     
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    They could. But what fun would that be? :)
     
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  8. raybeam

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    Kim Dotcom, what a farce this has been.. Bring down the fucking governments once and for all so we can enjoy some freedom.
     
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    I think it will come back. So much stuff they did was invalid and he has GREAT lawyers. I got my popcorn ready to see what happens
     
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    Kim Dotcom already has a 'megaupload' replacement called 'Megabox'.

    MegaBox is going to be the new Megaupload!!
     
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    wasn't megabox dedicated to free music? if i remember right, where artists upload their music and they should bank from online ads.
     
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    Wonder if he maintained his #1 COD position in jail...
     
  13. zebrahat

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    The US digital gestapo is SOOO red-faced over this, they are virtually screaming to get Kim extradited to the states, where they can bypass all this exposure of their utter lack of due process, and exceeding of their warrants and jurisdiction. They are not sorry for their over-reach, just regretful that they didn't hijack the guy first, so all this dirty laundry over their actions wouldn't be so transparent.

    In the US system, a bureaucracy usually just shuts such a person down, grab or freeze their assets, or even locks the person up through some closed or secretive 'process.' An administrative 'court' system (that is actually a creature of the same executive branch that shut down the business without real due process) then rubber stamps the action, or extorts a confession under financial duress from the raided business. The suspects, being business-minded, usually will prefer getting their assets back rather than spending years of their life fighting off the tyranny in similar kangaroo courts. The bureaucracy concludes its tyranny by putting out a leading press statement preening about how it shut down another bad guy.

    Kim short-circuited this routine by operating out of another country, guaranteeing some aspects of the raid could be challenged in a truly independent court. Outcome---transparent exposure of the bogus nature of the proceedings and the charges, and an ability to fight back legally. Hosanna!
     
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  14. CyberknightTully

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    Extremely well put and as good an analysis of the matter as I have seen! It's always nice to have private non-transparent proxies, a host in someplace like Botswana, domains with don't care registrars, an offshore corporation and the guys actaully doing the work in some other Third World country!

    ;)
     
  15. mikeads66

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    Your first paragraphsaid some interesting things, the rest was just a boring rant.

    I strongly doubt that the "US digital gestapo" is even remotely red-faced over this. They had years to prepare for this, and consider it from every legal angle. There is no way they got the warrants wrong accidentally.

    My guess is that their job was to go in, wreck as much havok as they possibly could, spend unlimited tax-payer money dragging the case out as long as possible, and simply hurt the business. Make some illegal copies of all his data, and make a quick getaway.

    Sounds to me like everything according to plan. He's not being extradited, that was never the idea.
     
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    I don't know, in an interview he said he was going to launch 'megabox' soon and posted a screenshot somewhere of it too, didn't look music related but I could be wrong lol.
     
  17. zebrahat

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    Not the government's MO. The feds love to keep the details of proceedings internal or classified, with little or NO interference by real courts, AND to run off with the assets. They NEVER want their defeats to see the light of day, it defeats the whole aura of invincibility they are trying to foster with their 'press release' prosecutions. In many tax honesty trials, where defendants who advocate for the "most Americans are not required to pay the income tax, it is misapplied to most people" view actually win in court, the FIRST thing the IRS does afterward is demand the judge not publicize the decision---and this request is usually granted. The rats simply cannot stand the light of day, it's like sunlight to a vampire.
     
  18. FunkyWaltz

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    Take em' down Kim!!! YOU CAN DO IT!

    Great share. Thank you.