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Could you make me a "star"? :D

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  1. eNzim

    eNzim Regular Member

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    Hey everyone...I've never made a thread like this...but I was wondering...
    We are the people who rule the net so it might be a legitimate question...
    You are the best IM guy: can you make anyone famous?
    It's been a few years since I've started working with affiliate sites, but I've never made money (I mean REAL money not 70-500) with my passion......My passion, which is music. And I'm pretty good at it...I mean like Timbaland good...
    So the question is: Given the talent of a musician, and given the talent of an IM guy:
    Could you make anyone famous? :)
     
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    If the person who likes your music the most is yourself, it isn't good at all. Yes anyone here could make you famous, give me $1 mio. and I can get you on any morning tv show in your country, but what is the point of it? Your music will still suck, and people will just recognize you as trashy c celeb who managed to get famous with throwing around with money.
     
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    Thank you for your answer...it was all theoretical... and btw it really doesn't suck. BUT If you tjink about what they play on music tvs...I dont think people recognize real value...but anyway, thanks for a response
     
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    Yes, if you have the money to spend.
     
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    Still theoretical...What if you get your commission afterwards?
     
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    If you want to be a famous singer its going to require more than just a viral campaign to have any lasting results. You are going to not only work on your vocal abilities but be willing to improve your appearance. What good is being famous for 6 months and a nobody for the rest of your life.
     
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    I can't sing. I only know a few thing about knobs ;)

    btw how can I emphasize it more that it's THEORETICAL :)
     
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    Nobody works for free, you pay a upfront and still pay a percentage. If you do have talent and a following then a record company may sign you but you better be shit hot or they won't promote you.
     
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    Theoretical, I think anyone could become at least famous on the local level. Just take singing lessons and then use autotune for music production and live performance to sound even better.
     
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    OP, do you just mix and produce? If so then you will need real talent and a hefty stack.
     
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    Logical thinking. But I don't think that's how things work (in my ideal world) it (should) work like: Oh okay your sound is cool..wanna join our label? And that DOES happen to producers, singers, musicians etc.... What I'm really curious about: IF someone ha the talent...COULD IM guys make him/her the next Jay/Beyonce That's all...So where does talent and where does IM kick in...I mean this would be a really interesting experiment


    Mix, Master, Produce, Engineer etc...(btw I can prove it...)
     
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    The problem is that 99% of the people who think they have talent, really do not. The world is filled with talentless failed musicians.
    Could a promoter make somebody without talent famous? Possibly but it would cost serious money (the promoter will only be willing to risk his own money if he meets somebody exceptional) and then they are likely to fade away.
    So if you have unlimited funds and want to be famous for 6 months, yes it could be done but overall it would be a loss if you didn't have real talent.
    If you have real talent then you should be approaching labels and studios already.
     
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    Its going to require an entire promotion team to get that famous, Internet Marketing is going to be part of it but not the entire thing. Your going to need people to be able to do offline marketing campaigns such as radio,tv, newspaper ads and get interviews etc.
     
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    A person can become a good singer by singing lessons, and autotune.

    http://news.psu.edu/story/141974/2012/07/20/research/probing-question-can-anyone-be-taught-how-sing
     
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    I've been working in the music industry for years. I've had some minor success on local / international levels. Who you know plays a big part in any success story, small or big. But, at this point, I've learned a few things:

    A. You need specific goals. Being famous isn't a goal for a real musician who wants to make this a career. And the reality of fame is that you need to be certifiably nuts enough to get attention for all the wrong reasons and be ok with that being your legacy long term. Your music will come 2nd if fame is your goal.
    B. Some people achieve fame in spite of not wanting it. Those are the chosen few. You can't try to make that happen.
    C. In the current music climate, work on the best music you can, and try to attain 1 fan at a time. This is where an IM background can help you, but I've been working a new record and experimenting a ton with techniques ive learned on BHW, and it's hit and miss. Have gotten new fans using methods I've learned here and made some money too. Not a lot, and not enough yet to do it full time, but it's a start.
    D. Stay a solo artist, do everything you can on your own. Bands don't last long enough for the amount of time it takes to develop these days. I made that mistake for 10 years. I'm a solo artist now and plan on staying that way. (This one is a personal opinion but it has merit based on my experience - again for long term goals).
    E. It really doesn't matter how good you are. You could be timbaland good and it doesn't mean anything. If you get exposure, and work on getting true fans who will return, like anything else, then you got a shot. You need to be willing to go a mile for a foot, as my old manager used to say (and he managed some #1 bands in the world. I still take his advice to heart to this day)
    F. Never give up. If you're serious about it, you will sacrifice whatever you have to sacrifice for your art.

    Good luck!
     
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    Nah, I'm pretty sure being average is enough to make yourself a name if you're being promoted by some of the big networks like edmdistrict.
     
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    You can make anyone appear to be famuos i guess. but you cant make anyone genuinely famous.
     
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    IM can expose your talent to the masses. If the masses don't like your talent, then its not gonna work, no matter the amount of money invested.
    Moreover, IM can be harmful to you if you dont actually possess that talent, you'll become famous but not exactly the way you pictured it.
     
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