Could something like this ever become a law?

Roparadise · Nov 27, 2011

Would it be possible for a government such as the U.S. to pass a law where people that were in porn movies,strippers or cam models or even escorts cannot be discriminated against for their past work,when they are applying for a job later on in life.

I'm not looking for a political debate since that is not allowed. Just the chances of if it could become a law or would it not.

75INZ · Nov 27, 2011

If I were a female ex pornstar or stripper, why the hell would I include that information in my resume when applying for a completely unrelated job? Unless you're some mega porn star like Sasha Grey or something, chances are they won't find ever find out about your history, especially if you went with an alias and just did cam shows.

charmol · Nov 27, 2011

I would have thought it was already illegal to discriminate on the grounds of someones previous profession, its just like any other form of discrimination after all...having said that, I'm no expert on US law, but you certainly couldn't explicitly refuse someone a job in the UK just because they used to be a porn star (not that you'd want to

) or you'd better have a damned good lawyer.

~|ChaRoN|~

Roparadise · Nov 27, 2011

75INZ said:
If I were a female ex pornstar or stripper, why the hell would I include that information in my resume when applying for a completely unrelated job? Unless you're some mega porn star like Sasha Grey or something, chances are they won't find ever find out about your history, especially if you went with an alias and just did cam shows.

A background check could find it out.

@charon the u.s. For some reason allow for some kinds of discrimnation.

Getwhatchuwant · Nov 27, 2011

What ^ he said...I am no expert either but I dont think you can discriminate although many companies have an "ethics/morality" clause especially for management type employees and it is a very broad category but in essence if they find you are participating in something they deem unethical they can fire you. So now that I think it through, the probably CAN discriminate against someone if they feel they were or are unethical or immoral in their eyes.

However as a manager myself, you never have to reveal your reason for NOT hiring someone. You simply move on and send the standard generic "we found a better fit" email or letter. To reveal the reason was the prior profession is pretty dumb and while the company may still win in court, why go through the expense of fighting a pissed off porn star?

Roparadise · Nov 27, 2011

But its still wrong to not hire someone because they were a stripper several years ago,and they are the best person for the position. And it doesnt even make sense to have a morality clause. What does morals really have to do with most jobs besides not stealing.

BassTrackerBoats · Nov 27, 2011

Roparadise said:
What does morals really have to do with most jobs besides not stealing.

Public perception of the company's image comes into play at times.

I could care less what a person has done in the past but many others do care and that could cause the company some embarrassment if it came out the the person who is doing XYZ for the company was once a film star in the porn industry.

Getwhatchuwant · Nov 27, 2011

Roparadise said:
But its still wrong to not hire someone because they were a stripper several years ago,and they are the best person for the position. And it doesnt even make sense to have a morality clause. What does morals really have to do with most jobs besides not stealing.

its to protect the company reputation, if for some reason I decide to start sending wee wee pics (like that Anthony Weiner guy did) and it gets media attention my employer would probably not like their name associated with mine, therefore the clause allows them to fire me even though I may be a damn good employee.

As far as a stripper is concerned, right or wrong there are alot of preconceived notions about them in general. Instead of looking at the person some people paint an entire group with a broad brush and wont give them a fair chance.

May i ask, is this someone you know or is this a hypothetical question?

Getwhatchuwant · Nov 27, 2011

BassTrackerBoats said:
Public perception of the company's image comes into play at times.

I could care less what a person has done in the past but many others do care and that could cause the company some embarrassment if it came out the the person who is doing XYZ for the company was once a film star in the porn industry.

Exactly! A prominent medical practice may not like the idea of the Head Nurse once being the "Head Nurse" in some porn flick.

Roparadise · Nov 27, 2011

But how can public perception be changed if that is the problem in society preventing certain ppl from getting a job for something they did when they were younger.

charmol · Nov 27, 2011

Roparadise said:
@charon the u.s. For some reason allow for some kinds of discrimnation.

Well, I think thats shocking and should be rectified, noone deserves to be discriminated against, its not a nice feeling and is morally abhorrent IMO, I know what it feels like, as I'm sure most do for whatever reason.

Getwhatchuwant said:
Exactly! A prominent medical practice may not like the idea of the Head Nurse once being the "Head Nurse" in some porn flick.

As long as it doesn't materially affect the nurse performing her duties, it should make mo difference at all if she was a checkout girl, a porn star or the Queen of Sheba in a previous life

Getwhatchuwant said:
May i ask, is this someone you know or is this a hypothetical question?

I think he is trying to get into a new line of work hehe

~|ChaRoN|~

flx89 · Nov 27, 2011

75INZ said:
If I were a female ex pornstar or stripper, why the hell would I include that information in my resume when applying for a completely unrelated job? Unless you're some mega porn star like Sasha Grey or something, chances are they won't find ever find out about your history, especially if you went with an alias and just did cam shows.

Exactly, you would probably do that only if you want to get a job in the same niche. Otherwise, keep it a secret, don't tell mom about it

Getwhatchuwant · Nov 27, 2011

Roparadise said:
But how can public perception be changed if that is the problem in society preventing certain ppl from getting a job for something they did when they were younger.

Well that is the catch 22...if they are smart and they actually get an interview and are asked about it, they have to play to their strengths.

I mean, I am not sure what a porn star could say (which unless they were famous not sure how an employer could find out) but a stripper just takes her clothes off, sometimes not even all of it, like at a bikini bar. So "being comfortable around people", "not intimidated" etc... are values that an employer is looking for. also she could have a sense of humor about the whole thing, it really depends on the interviewer and how she handles the interview.

Roparadise · Nov 27, 2011

ChaRoN.StYx said:
Well, I think thats shocking and should be rectified, noone deserves to be discriminated against, its not a nice feeling and is morally abhorrent IMO, I know what it feels like, as I'm sure most do for whatever reason.

As long as it doesn't materially affect the nurse performing her duties, it should make mo difference at all if she was a checkout girl, a porn star or the Queen of Sheba in a previous life

I think he is trying to get into a new line of work hehe

~|ChaRoN|~

I'm thinking about being a male cam model soon,so I can get funds to get back into day trading and launch my video game design business. And no free samples if i decide to do it. lol

Getwhatchuwant · Nov 27, 2011

Roparadise said:
I'm thinking about being a male cam model soon,so I can get funds to get back into day trading and launch my video game design business.

I am not sure how a future employer would know this. Even if you are getting a check from "Male cam Models dot com" does not mean you were a cam model. You could have been the SEO guy..

charmol · Nov 27, 2011

Roparadise said:
I'm thinking about being a male cam model soon,so I can get funds to get back into day trading and launch my video game design business.

Wow, I didn't see that one coming lol...the only thing to watch out for about that is people recording it and blasting it to youporn or xtube etc.

Also, the vast majority of male cam models are in the Gay niche...are you ready for that kinda c2c?

You never know, if your good looking enough to turn me, I might buy a show

~|ChaRoN|~

Roparadise · Nov 27, 2011

ChaRoN.StYx said:
Wow, I didn't see that one coming lol...the only thing to watch out for about that is people recording it and blasting it to youporn or xtube etc.

Also, the vast majority of male cam models are in the Gay niche...are you ready for that kinda c2c? You never know, if your good looking enough to turn me, I might buy a show

~|ChaRoN|~

Women don't really go to cam sites to watch?

Getwhatchuwant · Nov 27, 2011

ChaRoN.StYx said:
Wow, I didn't see that one coming lol...the only thing to watch out for about that is people recording it and blasting it to youporn or xtube etc.

Also, the vast majority of male cam models are in the Gay niche...are you ready for that kinda c2c? You never know, if your good looking enough to turn me, I might buy a show

~|ChaRoN|~

But i still argue who would see it unless his future potential interviewer was surfing gay porn?

I was once inside a porn shop and was worried someone would see me, then I thought to myself, if they see me they are here too! LOL

Its the walk back to the car that worried me after the fact

charmol · Nov 27, 2011

Roparadise said:
Women don't really go to cam sites to watch?

Not nearly as much as straight and gay guys do, but there is still a market of course, its just a little smaller than the other categories.

I promote quite a few adult cam sites, and the best money is marketing to the guys, theyre more sex crazy than the girls, more gullible and much more likely to part with their cash in my experience.

But remember, money is money at the end of the day...a lot of the stippers in gay clubs arent actually gay, its just a common misconception and its the same with the cams...and if you're only doing one-way shows it matters even less who is watching because you don't actually have to see w/e the person is doing

You just have to totally desensitize yourself from the product and think of the money.

~|ChaRoN|~

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Getwhatchuwant said:
But i still argue who would see it unless his future potential interviewer was surfing gay porn?

You never know if they Are going to be though, and once your video is one one site, its on them all....the sites all leech off each other, although if your prospective boss had been watching that stuff I hardly think he would mention it....Or conversely, it might propel you to top of the list of candidates

procam · Nov 27, 2011

I have an Uncle that lives in Vegas and he's friends with some porn stars. He told me they make MAJOR bank per film. So why would they be looking for a job?

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