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Could link drop/deletion be the reason we get hit with penalties?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by gorang, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. gorang

    gorang Elite Member

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    I was running an algo-penalised site through majesticSEO when I noticed that in the historic index i've had 11k backlinks deleted(gone missing).

    Up to now i've been a little stumped as to why i got penalised as the content is fine and it has a ton of backlinks. I got no unnatural links message and after placing a reconsideration request Google told me i hadnt been hit with a manual penalty, it was an algo penalty.

    But logically, if you were a webspam engineer at Google, coding the algo, then i'm sure you would use the amount of dropped links as an indication that a website is spaming across the net.

    I was using scrapebox with highPR lists from linkloophole. I was bombing the whole list straight to moneysite. When a site eventually dies because of all the spam, all those links are deleted, Googles sees this and eventually you get a penalty for spam.

    I've changed my tactics now, so that when using scrapebox I only post once to each domain in the list. That way, when a site dies you don't lose 200+ links, you only lose one.

    So if you've been hit with a penalty, check what majestic SEO says about how many deleted link you have.
     
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  3. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    From my perspective it would make perfect sense that this would be part of Google's algorithm. Spammy backlinks are typically deleted much more quickly than quality backlinks. I guess the way to counteract that is... gulp "quality content" ahhhh I'm going to retreat to warrior forum now.
     
  4. tombourlet

    tombourlet Registered Member

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    No. you cannot be punished for mass removing links as, to an extent, this is what you want to do. You can dramatically lose a position in the SERPS, so maybe this is what happened. If you remove a vast number of links, some of them might have been powerful, therefore the trust for your page has dropped.

    I would however continue with your policy of only one link per domain
     
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    tombourlet Registered Member

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    what *they* want you to do
     
  6. dejanlesi

    dejanlesi Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    It is not only that you are losing links, you also lose the serp juice that comes with them. So if you lose like you said, 11k backlinks, that is a shitload of ranking power and just because of that you are bound to lose many positions in your rankings..
     
  7. Gormagor

    Gormagor Junior Member Premium Member

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    The worst offenders for dropped links are Pligg sites, especially the PR0s or N/As. They can come today and be gone tomorrow (the entire site, that is, not just your links on it).
     
  8. gorang

    gorang Elite Member

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    While 11k links are a lot, even before I created them i was ranking very highly. But since losing them the site dropped through the floor 10x more than what the 11k links gave it.
     
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    futurestic06 Supreme Member

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    Dude as far I know you will not be punished for the link deletion. you will just loss the SERP. and its natural that you will eventually lose some spam back links.
    But your way of link building is totally solid now.
     
  10. -Jericho-

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    When Google went around deindexing blog networks I noticed a sizeable drop in rankings that had a lot of links through those networks. If you lose a bunch of links that are giving your site the power to rank you're going to see a drop. It's not a penalty per se. The penalty was to the sites with the links and that negatively affects your site from the loss of links.
     
  11. xbluelinks

    xbluelinks Newbie

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    I agree with you. I have a similar experience (albeit of my own undoing) which I posted here at warriorforum (don't have enough permission to post links yet).


    • warriorforumDOTcom/adsense-ppc-seo-discussion-forum/638644-observation-effects-dead-links-serp-ranking.html

    Sorry about the malformed URL above. I don't have permission to post URLs yet.

    Unlike you, I have replaced the "dead links" with the exact same sites. However my ranking has not been able to recover to their original heights.

    What did you do to recover your ranking? How well did it work?
     
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