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Converting "Make your own music/song" leads

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by islandcoli, May 12, 2011.

  1. islandcoli

    islandcoli Regular Member

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    Hello community,

    I am currently getting 15-20 targeted, double opt in email leads per day on the niche "Make your own music/song/etc"

    However I can't get anything to convert, for the life of me.

    Initially I started off by promoting the two leading clickbank related products
    "Dub-turbo" and "Sonic Producer" with very little luck.

    I speculated that the user probably was searching for a free solution so I moved on to Magix Music Maker (top 3 NON click bank software). Via Cj.com I got accepted to promote Magix and their 30 day free trial, assuming after 30 days, being hooked the buyer would spring for the 70$ - however I soon realized that Magix only offers 14 days of referral time, and since the trial is 30 days, by the time they are forced to pay my referral period will long since been up.

    Is anyone in a similar niche? What do you promote?
    Any suggestions on what else to try?
    Or perhaps this niche, although seemingly hungry is stingy?

    Thanks in advance for reading
     
  2. connor9191

    connor9191 Guest

    Perhaps studio equipment may help them? Headphones, microphones, software like Mixcraft, etc. If everything fails maybe just a cool gadget like CPA submit for an iPhone or something trendy, hell if they already signed up for one email they probably will put it anywhere.

    EDIT: and for studio equipment, you could possibly wholesale/dropship the whole operation to make more money rather than the 4% or whatever on Amazon. Place your own listings on Amazon and direct them to that to seem legit and for a payment system.
     
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  3. lablinks

    lablinks Senior Member

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    Good luck getting anything out of musicians, my friend. I'd say look at things that can promote their music, everything else is unlikely to convert or not worth the effort. I ran a website with 10K targeted visitors with CPA offers & Adsense. I had 0 (ZERO) clicks from Adsense, not once have I had such thing happen with any other website, and no CPA conversions. I just ditched the entire thing & moved to other niches and I'm sure glad I did. Maybe I'll try the music promotion route once I have time, which is probably never.
     
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  4. roblooman

    roblooman Registered Member

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    hey man i got a little insight here...

    i have recorded and produced my very own album worth of music...
    i have a few insights into whats going on here with that... if you like
    i mioght be able to in on this with you as a jv and ill do a
    PDF how to or something with you using my experience

    and we can see what happens..

    how many lead you got?

    Rob
     
  5. counselor_X

    counselor_X Regular Member

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    I have a couple sites that are in a similar niche......it's all about "free" and it's all about music creation. That's all I can really say without giving away my niche. These 2 sites make about 1k per month with adsense and CPA. I haven't even touched the website in 6 months aside from responding to emails. My main advantage is I am an expert on this topic and I provide truely useful content on my sites.

    If you can provide something truly useful to these people and put it in a content locker, you can probably make some money. Use adsense also. If roblooman can create that good content then maybe you guys will be able to succeed. Make sure you think like a salesman and make it sound like the best thing they will ever lay their eyes on, and you're all about giving back to the community (because you spent years in their shoes so you know what it is like) so you will offer this great stuff for free, the only small requirement is that they have to fill out a simple survey to access the content, but they won't regret it because this will definitely solve all their problems.
     
  6. counselor_X

    counselor_X Regular Member

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    I just realized this thread is nearly 4 months old :eek:
     
  7. SneakySnake

    SneakySnake Junior Member

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    I think this could be a tough niche to crack. The problem with monetizing musicians is threefold, I think.

    (1) Most 'serious' aspiring musicians are broke. (Many of my friends are heavily involved in the underground music scene, and are either unsigned or are working with TINY independent labels on shoestring budgets. Their releases are usually self-funded. Most of these guys & gals haven't got two pennies to rub together, because what little money they make from their music goes straight back into the process of getting gigs and booking studio time! Weirdly, the 'better' musicians tend to be the poorest (and most disorganised). On the other hand, the 'weekend' musicians who are just dabbling and generally aren't especially talented tend to have the most disposable income. Strange but true.)

    Instruments / supplies etc are expensive, and people tend not to 'impulse buy'. Personally, I am far more likely to buy from a brick & mortar music store (for guitars/amps/effects etc), or from an established online supplier for sundries like strings, picks, leads etc. As for synths, I've always headed for Ebay because you can pick up electronica gear dirt cheap and I'm a lot less 'fussy' about that stuff than I am about guitars/basses etc.

    (2) If you're specifically trying to promote music software, you should be aware there is a vast amount of cracked production/sequencing software around. I remember hearing that for every legitimate copy of Cubase, there are approx 8 'copies' in use. Most of the more clued up musicians (ie those who are actively writing and producing) will either be aware of this, or will be using hardware production facilities / studios / DAWs etc.

    (3) Someone suggested studio equipment / pro headphones etc. This could be a good path, but I'm not sure that 'serious' musicians (ie. the ones who are actually at the stage where they're needing to buy decent gear) will necessarily be searching for the terms "make your own music / song". My gut feeling is that most people who search for those terms will be guys who are not yet involved in the songwriting process. People who need the gear already KNOW how to create their own music. People who don't know, won't buy expensive studio gear.

    I'm certain there IS a market here, but I think you need to either focus your niche more tightly (ie look for specific subniches), OR try to monetize in a very general way on the assumption that most people who search for those specific terms will be extremely 'casual' in their approach to music. (ie, not serious/experienced).
     
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  8. SneakySnake

    SneakySnake Junior Member

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    Oops. I made the same mistake. Hard to tell when something has just been dug up from the vaults. Oh well. Maybe the OP is still around so it may still be useful.
     
  9. counselor_X

    counselor_X Regular Member

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    I'm envisioning an advanced program that allows you to create / sequence a song, and then when the user tries to download or export the song that they just created, they're forced to fill out a survey first. Maybe something like this already exists. If not, I think it's a great idea :D
     
  10. islandcoli

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    OP here -

    I've tried so many things in the last few months. Iframing a few music maker with a cpa submit thats delayed 4-5minutes (so they are already knee deep into making the song).. CPA submit on a music making software download. Sending them Clickbank products. Nothing worked. I ended up removing the opt-in forms from my sites to save money on aweber users
     
  11. SSL9000J

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    iPhone / iPad music making apps?
     
  12. roblooman

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    hey guys just to let you know i am still availiable to talk or Pm me if you want to get some low down on the music niche...

    i am willing to go into a PDF / how to guide and offer for free if i get back end or part of the content locker cut.... please feel free to email me...

    Rob
     
  13. counselor_X

    counselor_X Regular Member

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    How many uniques per day are you getting? I run 2 music related sites in a similar niche that bank around 1k per month so I wouldn't mind looking at your site and seeing what the options are.