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Consultants Do You Use BlackHat With Your Client's Site?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by JoshN, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. JoshN

    JoshN Junior Member

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    Curious how your linking strategy changes when you're working with clients. In some ways it seems easier because you can submit to real directories ect and create real partnerships for linking opportunities. Otherwise I feel like you need to tread very lightly.

    I'm not even sure I would want to buy links with a customers site.
     
  2. ja1myn

    ja1myn Senior Member

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    Yes I do. All of my clients have a very strong brand and their sites are highly trusted by Google. Their sites have tens of thousands of pages indexed and everything about their web presence is aged and solid. My blackhat techniques are not simply blasting their money site with wikis or social bookmarks.

    I build high quality contextual links for them and focus heavily on relevant links the most.

    I am a believer that anything you do in an attempt to increase your SERP ranking is considered blackhat.
     
  3. MeetTheVirus

    MeetTheVirus Regular Member

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    According to Google, anything to manipulate the search engines would be considered black hat SEO.

    But to answer your question. Yes, to an extent.

    When you start getting clients in high competition terms like insurance or local companies in big metro's like Houston or New York. You are pretty much forced to, or your client will not rank. The whole "build quality content and a beautiful/easy to navigate website and the users will come poring in along with ranking on its own" is nothing but lies.

    I have worked with a company that does what you would call "white hat SEO" with onsite optimization and press releases, guest blogging, etc. and it didn't do much unless they were in some small town in the middle of no where with no competition.

    Not to mention to do this takes so much time and most clients don't want to pay that kind of money or wait that long for any kind of ROI.

    Just don't go blasting the clients with a million blog/profile links using scrapebox and xrumer and expect to help.

    You want high quality, dripped links, with anchor text diversity. It's all about looking as natural as possible.
     
  4. ja1myn

    ja1myn Senior Member

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    The best part about doing SEO for client sites is that you can pretty much feel like you're the James Bond of the internet world because you have to be so stealthy these days.
     
  5. JoshN

    JoshN Junior Member

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    The sorts of clients you guys are talking about I'm assuming you work for on an ongoing basis and work at least part time. I do have enough power with my blog network and ability to buy links if I have a budget but I'm always hesitant to use the link power on client's sites.

    I am ranking a site in insurance now (just as a case study), using an aged PR4 domain that was used for something else before and I'm having difficulty getting it to rank for the keyword I want. I think I need to add some anchor text links for that keyword too, but I though a couple updates ago anchor text lost its strength quite a bit.

    And BTW I totally agree with everything being black hat all the warriorforum spin text people are just as blackhat as us. I mean although I've heard great techniques on here. 301 redirecting multiple aged domains to one site and then slamming those 301'd domains with relevant anchor text links.
    Creating sites with link bait, and then 301ing those to whatever page/subdomain you want to rank next.

    These are the sorts of tactics, which I would say are much more aggressive, I'm curious if you guys use stuff like that on clients sites (I would imagine Not, as it goes against the "looking natural" part)
     
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    Maja92 Regular Member

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    High PR, and high quality relevant contextual links, combined with other forms of links.
     
  7. -adrian

    -adrian Registered Member

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    I use bh strategies, just not directly. I'll create very high quality, very relevant, links to a client site.. and then will start building less quality links as tiers under them. In my experience clients freak if the direct links I get aren't representing their company properly.. but I also know that it's very difficult to rank in competitive markets with those links alone, so I'll do my "creative" link building in lower tiers where they won't notice.
     
  8. therage

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    I use BH strategies but this is in corporation with extremely high quality for my own sites. Now that I closed down shop and opened up another shop, same strategies apply for most of my small grade products.
     
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    newyorkcity Registered Member

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    for those doing blackhat, are you doing it with tiers or directly to the clients website? and what exactly are you doing?