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confused about referrers, do I need to worry?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by poorwhitey, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. poorwhitey

    poorwhitey Newbie

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    I'm just starting to make some decent money with CPA offers and I don't want to raise any red flags.

    So, I was wondering about what I'm doing now - I get my own leads and email them a link which they then click and get redirected to the CPA offer. Out of 60 clicks I've had 13 conversions ($300+ :p).

    Currently I'm using Tinyurl for the redirect, but I'm thinking the AM might get suspicious since I don't have a real site promoting the offer... right?

    If so, what should I do to make it look legit? Set up a simple related site? Is double meta needed here?
     
  2. manudevil20

    manudevil20 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You could just set up a double meta refresh to blank the referrer. If the CPA sees it is from a tinyurl link they will be suspicious.
     
  3. justone

    justone Elite Member

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    Buy a nice domain and put a website up for your offer.
     
  4. poorwhitey

    poorwhitey Newbie

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    manu, blanking the referrer would be ok, but won't the AM still want to see some sort of site this was promoted on if I go hardcore on this method?

    justone, that is what I'm leaning towards at the moment
     
  5. manudevil20

    manudevil20 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Yeah but spread your offers out and use more than one cpa account.
     
  6. poorwhitey

    poorwhitey Newbie

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    well I'm thinking of focusing on just this one offer for now, and hopefully with just this account. I guess that means I should do the site and make it look legit...
     
  7. lizmoz

    lizmoz Power Member

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    if you have money, buy a domain and hosting.. you'll need them in the future if you're going to keep doing im - it's not money spent, it's invested.
     
  8. poorwhitey

    poorwhitey Newbie

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    lizmoz, that I know :) I have two dedicated servers at the moment I can use. its the BH methods I dont know so well
     
  9. dirtysecret

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    I would think they both look very suspicious (tinyurl & double meta) - both suggest you have something to hide.

    Then again, I do no email marketing. Maybe tinyurl is very common. Take my advice with many grains of salt in that respect.

    However, I will teach you somethings I do know well and give you a little insight into the CPA industry:

    It's usually not the AM that get suspicious, it's the advertiser.
    The AM might contact you about it, but it's usually only because the advertiser contacted the AM about you.

    Remember, the advertiser is the one who's cutting the check.
    It's THEIR money that's on the line (much more so that the affiliate network).

    Here's the question that you SHOULD be asking: what's the usual EPC for this offer? 13 leads from 60 clicks is a 20%+ conversion rate. If most of their other affiliates' traffic averages, say, 2% conversion then THAT would raise red flags.
     
  10. singa

    singa BANNED BANNED

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    Hence what conversion rate will look legit?

    Below 2%?

    Or I'm miss understood here...
     
  11. unlimitedpostings

    unlimitedpostings BANNED BANNED

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    Just hide everything as good as you can. Whatever it takes. Like someone said above. The advertisers are the ones to worry about. If they're happy, your AM will be happy.
     
  12. dirtysecret

    dirtysecret Regular Member

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    I just depends on the offer.

    Often times the CPA network will tell you the EPC (earnings per 100 clicks) on the offer.

    For example, take a payout of $20 per lead. If EPC was $100, then earnings per click (people who visit the offer) would be $1 per visitor. That would mean 1 out of 20 (5%) are completing the offer.

    5% would be the average conversion rate across the network.

    If you're pulling 25%, they might not get "suspicious" per se, but you can count on them at least asking where you're getting the traffic from. They might even make you show/prove it or else the advertiser will discontinue paying for your leads.

    There is no hard and fast "this is safe", "this isn't" answer. You have to take each situation in context and use your head.
     
  13. singa

    singa BANNED BANNED

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    Oh, I see...
    Well, there's an idiom at my place said,

    "Greedy people always lose"

    And this is my favourite,

    "Like a dog with his shadow" :D

    Let me explain, this dog walk on a river bank with a bone in his mouth, then he come to cross a brigde, at the bridge, he saw another dog with a "BIG" bone inside the river...(Well his own shadow... :D ) Then greed taken over him, he wants that bone too, so he open his mouth to bark at the other dog(The shadow of course...) And "flung" the bone in his mouth fall into the river, the other dog disappear, because the water is not calm anymore... :D
     
  14. mattybee1

    mattybee1 Newbie

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    Cpa director dude. Set up a simple blog or poll.

    Interesting story bro. I can honestly say I have never heard that before.:D