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Confirmed: Social Network Lawyers Assigned to Monitor BHW

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by youssef93, May 26, 2012.

  1. youssef93

    youssef93 Senior Member

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    Hello there everyone!

    This is a friendly warning because I got bit and learned this information the very hard way. I have confirmed information that a social marketing company has assigned two lawyers to monitor BHW. That's their point in life. That's good and bad, kinda. Obvious why it's bad but I guess it's good because these people are so desperate for work, lawyers get paid on hourly basis. :D

    So this thread isn't about freaking you out but rather giving you a heads up and some tips about how you can protect yourself. First off if you're outside the US, you should worry less, but that does not mean you shouldn't worry at all.

    Some important tips:

    - If your BHW username is the same as a username somewhere else, somewhere social marketing lawyers would go after, take care of it.
    - If you offer services or software, TRIPLE CHECK your anonymity.
    - It is better to isolate your forum service threads from your dedicated service websites, I know people who got caught this way.
    - DO NOT link your PERSONAL social networking profiles to your service fan pages / social accounts.

    I totally missed some of those stuff. Be careful with linking your personal accounts to your business's social accounts. They will use it against you to the fullest extent.

    Of course all these tips mainly apply to those who offer, let's say, controversial services related to social marketing.

    Spread the word to your buddies so that you don't end up like me. Thankfully I sort of handled the situation but lost thousands of dollars along the way as well as countless hours.

    Cheers to all!
     
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  2. xashishx

    xashishx Regular Member

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    Thanks for the suggestions mate,will surely be more careful from now on o_O
     
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    ugjunk Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You aren't one of those lawyers? :D

    I was just kidding but thank you for the information.
     
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  4. Checkmate

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    Redirect all IP's from Palo Alto :slap:
     
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    Lawyers are like prostitutes, they both screw you for money.
     
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    Going to create a new BHW Profile; open a FB Like sales thread.

    Username: zuck
    Location: Palo Alto

    *waits for the litigation*
     
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    So why is this confirmed? Please explain further...
     
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    Let's sue them for watching us
     
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    lanbo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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  10. raghav

    raghav Power Member

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    yes, can you please explain further?
     
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    trustedfire9 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    why i will do all of that ? and hide my identity ? BH isn't illegal !
     
  12. youssef93

    youssef93 Senior Member

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    Hahaha if I was, I'd quit IM and go get myself a private island or something. These guys earn a few hundreds dollars hourly, and the legal budget of those big companies is almost uncapped.

    LOL. They outsource to law firms that do not necessarily have to be located there. :p

    Tell me about it :S

    Since BHW was originally how they got to me, I'm unable to divulge a lot of information here in public. What I can say is that they're assigned to monitor especially the BST section for violating services and/or software to hit their creators. I believe some members here may already know that. There might be other tech guys that monitor spam discussion and exploits and report back to get them fixed, but I have no solid information confirming that so can't tell. It's just a good practice to watch your back from now on.

    It's sad that we can't do anything about it to keep them out. But we can at least protect ourselves.
     
  13. youssef93

    youssef93 Senior Member

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    Well there's a difference between breaking the law and breaking their TOS. They don't really differentiate. And even if you do not break any TOS at all, and they just don't like you or see you as some kind of strategic threat, then they'll go after you.

    The point here isn't about trying to hide our "wrong doings" but rather trying to protect ourselves from those bullies. If you have the legal budget and the resources to fight back, then be my guest, you might win at the end but most of us will empty our pockets when you go for a long term war with those kind of companies. One thing is for sure, you'll certainly gonna empty your pockets before they do, being right or wrong isn't even part of the equation.

    It's the cruel world. lol.
     
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    Thanks for the info ;)

     
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    Yup, you right. Blackhat isn't illegal, but... Most of blackhat stuff is against social networks's TOS. They can sue you and close your main income ( for example: if you're selling bh software with recurring payments ).

    Blackhatters who's writing BH ebooks, creating BH softwares and etc, they must know about privacy and security. If they don't - then they will be delicious morsel for every lawyer.
     
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    Of course there is.

    They've been on BHW for years.

    Just hide your tracks and keep your shit clean.
     
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    These layers would earn more if they offered their services on BST section instead.
     
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    That's a great generalization there sparky.

    All lawyers screw people. I'm a lawyer. I must screw people.

    How about this - all BHW members who joined in Feb 2012 are douche bags.

    The fact is there are good and bad people in any industry, including IM and even the law (gasp!)
    Wait until you need a lawyer for something some day, you'll feel differently then. In the mean time, think before you post.
     
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    honourinspirit Newbie

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    it is more of a warning. Lets all be careful in future..
     
  20. DarthM

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    Thanks for the heads-up bro. It's best not to use your real name when buying/selling services online. I try to avoid using my real name in most cases (I don't believe I'm doing anything illegal, but I don't want to get unnecessary heat for violating sites' ToS). But there's still subpoena risk if you're a big fish and don't do enough to hide your tracks.

    To those offering social marketing services - There was a thread the other day in the Jr. VIP section about a BHW seller who got traced by Facebook. They sent him a PM with a hidden embedded image to get his IP address, linked that info to his real Facekook account (although there was no link between his BHW info and his Facebook account) and sent a C&D letter to that email. So be careful.
     
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