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Complete Guide Before Buying Any High PR site/Expired Domain/High PR Links

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SEOSPERM, Feb 25, 2014.

  1. SEOSPERM

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    Hey folks,

    Going to share with you complete guide before purchasing any expired domain or high PR site. We all know the fact to get fast ranking by buying high PR site and make converting into relevant sites.

    Step 1 - Purchasing the Perfect Domains -- You can purchase the domain from many place, like tbsolution, PRpowershot, expireddomains.net etc.

    Below are the points to keep look over it before buying it

    1) PR of the site

    2)
    Backlinks Profile

    3)
    Healthy Site

    -- The PR of the site --

    (http://www.seomastering.com/real-pagerank/ or http://www.rankchecker.com/pagerank-checker/ - For checking real page rank)

    1) Check there is no 301 redirect (http://www.ragepank.com/redirect-check/) -- For example: if I have PR3 site and I redirect it to my new site, then it becomes PR3 and then I sell it to someone who thinks I bought PR3 domain or site.. as soon as the sale is made, I take off the 301 -- So many people who are selling domain using this trick so always make sure to check there is no 301 redirect.

    2) Throw the site URL into google for checking index

    3) http://web.archive.org/ (The type of the site was with it)


    -- Backlinks -- Well, get those domains whose PR is based on it's link Profile


    1) Check DA and PA -- Check the linking root domain (40-50 is good) -- Check these both things in opensiteexporer.org

    2) Citation flow and Trust Flow are more than 10 (Trust flow> citation flow)

    3) Checking inbound(external) links numbers (For PR2 : 100 , PR3 : 200 , PR4 : 1K and PR5 : 7-8k at least, this is my guess and I go with these numbers only -- You can break these rules)

    4) Check which profile is better from website.com or http://www.website.com

    5) Check the links is going to www or non www so you get the link juju from the first day

    6) Check first 30-50 Top backlinks should have at least PR1

    Check above four things in http://www.majesticseo.com/


    -- The Healthy Site

    Sometimes, the people who sell the domains that have taken a penalty and one get bad juju links if one buy it -- so just throw this domain into Google and if it is showing up then it is healthy and indexed.

    Note: I also check MOZTrust that should be at least 3 or 3+ - Also, check the linking root domain at the same time, it should be make sense.

    How much I be spending -- All depend upon the metrics I am used to checking but what if I get quality sites/domains or fits the criteria above I mentioned then?

    -- For PR2-3 : $60-70 -- For PR4: $150 For PR5 : I can go up to $200-225

    You can post your suggestion

    Will create new post about setting up domain, wordpress soon.

    Thanks for reading

    Regards,
    SEOSPERM
     
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  2. Veyron

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    Thanks for the share. Also, what inspired your username?
     
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  3. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    OP, is your sig supposed to be linked?
     
  4. HelloInsomnia

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    That just checks to see if the site is redirecting anywhere not if the site is being redirected to so it won't tell you if somebody is going to remove the redirect to the site or not.
     
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  5. SkyrocketSEO

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    Actually your guide is completely wrong.

    DA means nothing, it can be boosted
    PR means nothing it can be boosted
    Trust Flow (I though I can rely on this, but noticed that..) it can be boosted
    Site Indexed- means nothing, it does not mean it is not a penalized site

    Perfect example is site that was 2 days ago at auction (PR6, DA around 70 and trust flow around 30). People were bidding like crazy on that site,but this site was nothing but a spammy black hat domain with hidden pages, bad incoming and very bad outgoing links. The site have 170K+ pages yet ranks for nothing!? This means that the site is penalized or irrelevant. Sites from Chinese sites and redirected (hacked) pages from EDU sites are also something you should think about.
     
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  6. netmoney1

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    You can fire pure spam at a brand new domain, tweet the links so moz picks them up as "just discovered" (that is where the pull that data from - tweets)....and the next moz update you can have DA/PA 80+ (and STILL have a worthless domain)

    You need to DIG DEEP if you really want to find the value.
     
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  7. ORJay

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    Never thought TF could be faked
     
  8. Laubster

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    This is pretty much right. We appreciate you trying to help people here, but PA/DA and CF can be boosted with nothing but SPAM. TF is harder to manipulate, however. The only thing that really matters is the site's backlink profile, which must be analyzed by hand to determine quality. Sadly there's no magic number we can look at to know if a domain is worth our money or not, they must be analyzed by hand. I build Private Blog Networks for clients, so sadly I know how time consuming this is.
     
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  9. SteveWaller

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    Some useful pointers but I'm with the others who say that metrics and numbers can only tell you so much. A thorough inspection of the backlinks is necessary along with the site checking that you described.
     
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    I found the best expired domains to be

    1. Domains created for some tech conference or something like that a couple of years ago. Most of these sites have links from 5-30 different domains, and majority of these domains are sites like TechCrunch, Mashable, Ney York Times etc...If you can get this domain for a couple of hundreds that's a good deal. Imagine the price of one link at TechCrunch...and then compare this to what you just paid for domain with these juicy links

    2. Domains created for some health conference. Same as above but now you have links from EDU and authority health sites.

    3. Domains of some semi-popular person in any niche. They forget to renew their domain and you get domain with juicy links

    4. Dropped domains of any company/club/anything that is not spammed with crappy links.

    I avoid sites with thousands of backlinks, I usually go with sites that have links from top tier sites. If you see that site have some suspicious links as well, this means that someone already used it for some kind of BH seo before, so forget about it. You don't want to have a rotten apple in your PBN.
     
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  11. SEOGrenoble

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    Personaly, I first check Trusflow from majestic, ideally > 15
    Then I check unique refering domains, ideally > 100
    I check ratio # of backlinks / # of refering domains is not too much

    To be sure there was no spam, we need to check on web archive
     
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    Thanks to the newbie for thinking in the right direction, even if not knowing the potholes. Basically (as folks from the Flippa and WSO worlds know), just about everything in IM can be boosted or faked, from traffic stats to authority ratings to reported profits.
     
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    Yes, I recently found a "nest" of expired club type sites with wikipedia, .edu and .gov links. The metrics on these are not that great on the surface, but I saw a nice ranking boost after dropping my links.

     
  14. ranga

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    one nice metric to check is CF/TF ratio, if too much Citation Flow without corresponding Trust Flow then the site is mostly spammed links, if the opposite then the site is not yet too popular (i.e. low no of links). The first one i.e. cases where CF is much higher than TF works pretty well most of the time to recognise spammy link profile.
     
  15. SEOSPERM

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    Thanks to all -- I appreciate guys for posting truly suggestion here

    Found one more thing, the buying domain should be a PR of the actual (original) less two - For example: if a PR5 links to a site then the site should be at least a PR3 or if 3-4 PR5 links points to a site then instantly that site should be at least a PR4

    Waiting for the more suggestion

    Thanks
     
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    I was looking for a guide like this hopefully that i found one here i blackhatworld
     
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    Excellent advice. I call these 'pop-up' domains - where people used them for a one-time project then didn't need them again. The great thing is, backlinks to time-sensitive event sites don't usually get removed, just archived.
     
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    I think this is the perfect guideline to understand for buying expired or high pr domains
     
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    All these are just SIGNS that the domain might be good. Only way how to really find out is checking if it has been used in bad way in past in wayback archive (most domains I find has been) and if not than just manualy checking its backlinks. This way you will find out that like 95% doamins you check are crap, but for that 5% its worth the effort.