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Competitors Xrumering me OFF first page.help

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by blackhatbeginner2010, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. blackhatbeginner2010

    blackhatbeginner2010 Regular Member

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    Everytime I get a site to #1 for my keyword, my evil competitor xrumers ( i think its xxrumer they are using) me off..and the site always lands page 5-7 .. is there anything that will guarantee that the attacks will not affect my rankings?
    pls help!
     
  2. ohaider

    ohaider Senior Member

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    Keep building a beautiful and diverse link structure.
     
  3. blackhatbeginner2010

    blackhatbeginner2010 Regular Member

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    thats it? r u sure? thats costly. hehe
     
  4. blackhatbeginner2010

    blackhatbeginner2010 Regular Member

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    and sorry -50 penalties from xrumer blasts are unrecoverable doesnt matter how many nice links ya keep building
     
  5. BombaRuLz

    BombaRuLz Regular Member

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    Make sure you just have good onsite seo, don't worry :) The blasts are just making you stronger.
     
  6. blackhatbeginner2010

    blackhatbeginner2010 Regular Member

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    no if youre xrumerd until it causes a penaltie , a red flag is raised in Gs system.... they cause -50 penalties..which are unrecoverable..
     
  7. BigMarcusStud

    BigMarcusStud Senior Member

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    A lot of people here are saying that it's impossible for a competitor to SB or Xrumer your site in order to bring it down. They may dance a little but it will just come back stronger.

    I'd love to see proof that your site is indeed not recovering from the penalty. Maybe we can see once and for all it a competitor can indeed cause a penalty that we can't recover from.
     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Just keep building good links --you said yourself your repeatedly ranking the site #1 so whatever your competitor is up to obviously isn't doing that much damage!
     
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    3v0|v3 Regular Member

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    It may hurt you in the short term, but in the long term (1 year from now) you will be top.
     
  10. Execute

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    keep building links but also do a cost-benefit analysis and work out whether the keyword is worth all the trouble of continuously trying to rank for it when there is some crazy person trying to damage good sites.

    This is because the time and effort you are spending on this keyword could be put into another keyword the same or even potentially having a higher search volume and you could get number 1 and keep it without any problems.
     
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    BigGnumber1 Registered Member

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    keep rocking out and turns those links into more juice for you...you will bounce back just keep moving along...and no there is not alot you can do.
     
  12. nigel44

    nigel44 Registered Member

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    I really must question the effectiveness of these Xrummer and SE Nuke et al tools including many of the so called services that are constantly advertised on this Forum.
    I Love this place, many post like Meatheads and Krafty Kyle are nothing short of inspirational.
    But there is an awful lot of misinformation posted on here as fact.
    One example is the creation of sites, that according to their respective OPs will earn you great money on a monthly basis. I honestly do not think such posts should be allowedl, you can not simply buy success, if it were that simple this forum would not exist . I honestly believe that its time the mods went through these offers with a fine tooth comb and weeded them out. I am of course only expressing a personal opinion so dont flame me please.
    Backlink services should be seriously looked at I recently purchased a Ten Thousand Links package, I received Zero results.
    Promises made and then broken are bad enough, but giving people false hope is unforgivable.
    If you could build sites that made you up to $200 per month would you sell them for a few dollars each? Come on people lets get real.
     
  13. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    If you are building, really really high quality links (amazing links) Xrumer will dance your site but after 6 mths of solid link building on it, it will remain well positioned.
    I'm talking about PR5-PR6 main sites though, so if you cannot generate this kind of profile you may be in trouble.

    Yes Xrumering sites with poorly constructed link profiles works magic on getting competitors to dance and never recover. I've seen it many times, especially when you ping all of the links.
    Maybe he realizes it works because your backlinks are mediocre to begin with?
    And there should be no "I think it's Xrumer" if its your site... yeesh. If you cannot even tell what links are coming into your site, you're in the wrong business.

    $200/month sites are easy to produce (so easy you could create one of them every day if you knew what you were doing), it's the $200,000/mth sites that are hard.
    Yeah I said it...

    Buying a 10,000 link blast I would assume it'd give you zero results (unless it was a certain kind of link blast and very well done, which no one would sell for less than $1000 :) )
     
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  14. nigel44

    nigel44 Registered Member

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    No it was a Fivver gig, lol I should have known better
     
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    I love all the wanna be guru replies....

    Dont worry brother... You'll be fine.....
     
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    chad362wiley Supreme Member

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    use those 10,000 blasts to index your high quality backlinks. nothing more.
     
  18. nigel44

    nigel44 Registered Member

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    "$200/month sites are easy to produce (so easy you could create one of them every day if you knew what you were doing), it's the $200,000/mth sites that are hard.
    Yeah I said it..."

    You see thats the kind of comment that I object to.
    Its almost a throwaway comment that you could build sites like that on a Daily Basis, there are Guys and not a few Girls on here who would kill for just one site like that never mind 7 a week.
    They are far from easy to build, I would challenge anyone on this Public Part of the forum to do it once never mind daily
     
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  19. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    You're an idiot... that is all.
    The few people that know who I am on this forum can attest to the fact I have several sites doing mid 4s/day
    I'm by far not the "only" person in the "public" part of this forum running those numbers either (or more).

    Stop making excuses and work... seriously.
    Moaning "this 10,000 link blast I overpaid for didn't worrrrrk" isn't going to help you. Yeah, no sh*t it didn't work. I can generate 500k-1million backlinks in a DAY if I want just on one of my VPSs, and I know they don't work. Fantastic... now shut up and start trying shit.
     
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  20. dirtbag

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    I've always been extremely weary of "advice" offered by "service providers". Of course their advice is going to support the service they offer. How many guys selling Scrapebox blasts are going to go out and tell you SB isn't a necessary tool? Really.

    The other point I think one could note about service providers who do link blasts and such is this, if the service works so well, why are you selling it and not using it? The only reasonable answer is that THEY MAKE MORE MONEY SELLING THE SERVICE, than they do putting it to use for themselves. If this weren't the case, they wouldn't be putting their resources towards someone else's projects.

    Now, one could argue that different people have different strengths, and while someone can be talented at building backlinks, they might not be able to sell products for shit, and thus they make more money as a provider. This I can agree with, but would I take this type of person's advice? Probably with a grain of salt.

    I still say it's better to have everything working in your own hands in the long run. That's just my take on it though.
     
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