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competitors with few backlinks and high PA and DA

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by SEO2k, Apr 22, 2015.

  1. SEO2k

    SEO2k Junior Member

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    What do you think about keywords and long tail keywords when the competitors have a few back links or many low quality back links but have high PA and DA?
    Is it worth to get into it?
    Any specific methods for SEO in that case?

    Share your experience
     
  2. SEO2k

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    Anyone? there has been over 200 views to this post..
     
  3. eponus

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    What do you consider high DA/PA? When you say few links, you mean few links to the domain itself (unlikely if it's high DA), or few links to the individual ranking page?

    How relevant for the term you're targeting are those competing pages What kind of keyword are you talking about?

    Need some more context.
     
  4. SEO2k

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    I mean few links to the individual page itself, even if there are many links to the domain.
    I'm talking about keywords and long tail keywords with 1000 - 10000 monthly searches.
     
  5. Gwenn

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    You don't have to look into the DA and PA, since they don't help in ranking. The long tailed keywords are good to use, yet having many low quality backlinks can result with drop in rankings.
     
  6. ThopHayt

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    Cloaked network links, a dropped domain, or both probably. PA/DA alone won't help rank them tho, something else must be going on meaning they do have links. Even if you aren't seeing.
     
  7. SEO2k

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    Thanks.
    I'm using free versions of MOZ toolbar, SEOquake and Majestick backlink Analyzer, Will it show me all the inbound links? Is there any way to find Cloaked links?
     
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    zimmerseo Newbie

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    They might be using a concealed PBN.
     
  9. SEO2k

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    How is possible to hide links? and is it possible to find them?
     
  10. laur.laurix

    laur.laurix Power Member

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    By blocking ahrefs, moz etc bots with htaccess search the forum and u will find the code. Regarding OP question, ranking long tail is way more easy then ranking general keywords. Go for it.

     
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    Hi Matt,
    You can use Long tail keywords for good results. It will also impact positively to your main keywords.
     
  12. SEO2k

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    Thanks.
    So what I understand from you guys is that PA and DA is not important.
    It's easier to rank long tail keywords.
    I will search for how I can block MOZ, etc.. robots with htaccess.
    Is there any other way to find those backlink? Google index them, so most be a way..
     
  13. jo080711

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    I think you got it right from above. I do consider the PA DA, but in general you should never use 1 thing as a deciding factor. They are all 3rd party metrics and can be manipulated. Go with your instincts from what you see in the serp as a whole. (You'll be wrong sometimes, but you'll learn from it).

    If you decide to go after it - just make a page that is better targeted than the others and is considerably more useful to the user. That will give you a bit of an edge. And target as many longtails on the page as makes sense. On my sites the long tails start earning long before the short tails even start to show real life.

    As far as finding those blocked links, one thing you can try is to Google:

    domain -site:domain

    You should be able to uncover a mention of the domain on a PBN site (or a few) using that.
     
  14. william19510

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    We can use Google Trends. So, just google Google Trends, and this is obviously the first result. You put in your target keyword, click the magnifying glass button, and it'll show you the trends over the last, in this case, almost 10 years of that keyword. As you can see, interest has gone up and it's kind of gone down, and it's been all over the place.
     
  15. thisismymp3

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    PA AND DA is very important , more so than PR