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Comment backlinks have no power now?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by kupo, May 5, 2011.

  1. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    Kupo, I just came across this post:

    From this thread.

    Do comment backlinks really have no power after the Google Farmer update?

    If so... then that sucks, kupo.
     
  2. Simas9

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    The worst you can do on this board is to believe in every single post. Actually after reading some threads for a couple of hours you could even realize that nothing does work and SEO is some kind of a magic. People complain all the time.

    Blog comments do work just choose the right ones (from the same niche/high PR) and you will see a positive difference in your rankings. Good luck.
     
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  3. efwebs

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    I read a post yesterday that someone was ONLY blasting the crap out of a new domain with SB to see what happens. They ranked on the first page of google and made their costs back from Adsense ads within a few days.

    Their site may not last on top of google for long, but to say blog comments have no effect on google is naive.
     
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    I read it on the internet, it must be true!
     
  5. gorang

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    The problem is the word "work".

    Work implies that blog commenting will put your website at position 1 in Google.

    It won't and for many years it has not.

    So what does work?

    Creating backlinks consistently.

    Backlinks from blog comments will always have some value.
     
  6. Narrator

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    From my experience SB comments do work but their effects tend to be temporary (probably from comments being deleted etc..). Also, comments alone are unlikely to get you into top 5 on the first page.

    For new sites I usually do a few massive blasts to give the site an initial boost, and give spiders plenty of pathways to find the site. Then I begin interlinking web2.0 properties and articles, and blast those. Every now and then when a keyword needs another boost I'll do another blast.

    Most people don't blast new sites for fear of getting sandboxed but I haven't had a problem yet. And I rather have a new site sandboxed than an established one.
     
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    Narrator (or anyone else) .... what do you class as web 2.0 properties???
     
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  8. kupo

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    For the initial blast:

    1) How many comments do you blast, for how many days? (e.g. 6000 comments on day 1, 6000 comments on day 3, 6000 comments on day 7, then let it rest and blast your buffer sites, etc)

    2) The initial blast is a DIRECT blast to the money site, right?

    3) Do you make your blast 50% no follow and 50% do follow, or do you only blast do follow links?
     
  10. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Anyone that says scrapebox blasts "work" isn't talking about increasing SERPS. I've done actual testing on multiple domains including EMDs and there are never increases in rankings. It might work for "indexing" but that's overvalued anyway.
     
  11. bobbylove321

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    I just bought a 10k+ scrapebox blast from fiverr and my site went from non-existent to page 7 within 2 days.

    So I can say that comments still do work, but only in quantity.
     
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  12. semilar

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    I got 2 nice examples of SB blasts...
    First one is a low competition KW where I was able to get to position 7 relatively fast with I don't remember exactly but it must be something between 180-2000 links at the end. To get to position 3 it took me another 18k links, however. But since this is a very low competition kw, you'll see that the power of comment spam is not that big.

    another example was a page on an article dir. I was competing with another article on the same dir for a keyword, he was no1, I was nowhere to be found. He had about 180 profile links pointing to it, I had about 300 comment spam links pointing to it. He won. At first.

    4 Months later I checked again out of curiosity, now I am no7 on google for that kw with only 150bl, while his article disappeared from the top 10(farmer update obviously made the article dir lose link power on its own)while still having his 180 bl. Now THAT is strange, isn't it? My guess, profile links get devalued more now (easy to spot, no value at all to google, while comment links might be of value by system) while google does not have to do much to devalue comment spam since a comment spammed page has so many obl on it that the individual link does have almost no link juice anymore anyways...
     
  13. Abstroose

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    If you ask me, I'd say quality, not quantity.
     
  14. ramtripper

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    If you're gonna blast your site, blast it consistently for a while - 3 weeks to a month. Every day. Why? It seems natural to G00gle. If Big G drops you down to the bottom of the barrel, and you're still getting backlinks, it seems like you may have other traffic sources and it makes you seem more real and actually popular... to G. It only makes sense that G would drop you after seeing a huge unnatural blast. But seeing it happen consistently makes your site look like it's just consistently getting referrals from people on the internet who are leaving your link everywhere (aka natural building) and will make G wanna put you higher.

    This also explains the sandbox "phenomenon." Big G drops you to test you, then if you keep going hard and consistent, G will pick you right back up even higher than before.
     
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  15. internetfree

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    Hm,I don't believe in such thing I mean think a little.If you do not do neither one comment or backlink to your site how much time should pass for your site to be ranked in google first page.Its almost certainly that until commenting exist (commenting to have option to put link) that big G will give power that kind of backlinks.That is clearly like a sunny day, without that many website would lose its interactivity and internet will be like you watching TV nothing more.
    Sorry I'm maybe go too far,my apologize.
    And of course all is in related / PR of page weight like many people are mentioned already over and over again.
     
  16. th1221

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    Probably less power than they used to, but it's still there. And some great insight, ramtripper.
     
  17. Toples

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    kupo, dont be afraid
    people make comments and forum posts talking of good sites
    if google ignored those links than it wouldn't be ranking sites correctly
    and they dont want that do they, kupo?
     
  18. cronini

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    the thing i want to know is if its that easy to get your site sandboxed, you would think people would be building backlinks to their competitors sites with public poxies etc... to cause them issues.
     
  19. Tony Barns

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    It can't be that easy as you said if it was then people could destroy there competition and even big company sites. Google is such a mystery.
     
  20. cronini

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    Then again if its a new site and 25,000 backlinks pop up over night then it sounds reasonable for google to be suspicious. How many new sites would blast that many per day? Maybe they manually review them? Although i doubt it