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College is a pain in the ass...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by klen76, Jun 8, 2017.

  1. klen76

    klen76 Registered Member

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    So i'm doing my first year in college and it's a pain in the ass. I feel like i am wasting so much time on things i will never need, that do not interest me at all and am not sure how will i benefit off of it, except that i have to finish them to pass. Not all shit is useless, but majority of it is, not to mention that for the majority, it's just a theory with very littlle real life use case.

    All this hard work so once i'm done with college, i'll be able to get enslaved by an employer work 9hrs a day and get shit.

    Now let me point out, that i've been watching other students and boy was i impressed. They all seem to be okay with studying and all the work, just following others lead and do what they are told to do. I do not feel like that, if you want to be an engineer you have to learn, but i am really not like that, i have so much resistance and i just hate this shit to be honest, i hate it from the bottom of my heart. I don't believe i could last another 2 years.

    I am from Europe and the college itself is free. The average salary is like net 1k€. So even if i finish college and get hired somewhere in the IT sector, i would make around 1k a month, probably even less at beginning.
    But i really don't imagine myself working for somebody else, i WOULD hate that so i am practicaly doing what i hate(college) to be able to do something that i would hate. Ofcourse this is because i am following your standard path there, eg. have good grades, go to college, get a nice job and blahblah, boring.

    I have saved up around 50k€ so far from various sites and my online endeavours. I love working on my projects(various websites, services and so on). Because i believe that sooner or later one of them will succeed. However due to the college i lack free time to be able to work on my projects :( At the moment i have no steady income for that reason though.

    So i REALLY don't know what to do. I am unhappy with this college shit, i hate it, it's so hard for me to focus on studying, i just can't do it. I don't know if i will be able to grind through it just to get a diploma.. Not to mention i don't see a point in getting a degree, getting a job and then on top of that not making shit, but for a living and occasional barbecue.

    Can someone give me suggestion? I have read about on there a bit and many have said that they regretted dropping out. How would i even tell that to my parents? They are pretty conservative and old fashioned - eg. working their ass off their whole life - they don't know there are ways to make more money faster and easier.

    With 50k i would be able to live decently for like 5 years not having to do anything. But in the meantime i would like to establish something and get income from business/online sites and so on, i mean even if i fail i could still return to college??


    If somebody could give me their oppinion i would really appreciate it.
     
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    Keep at it, get the diploma.. its always helpful as a back up in case shit hits the fan online.

    Work on your projects on the weekends when you have spare time and put 50% of your money away somewhere safe for a rainy day or a backup fund and make the other 50% of the money work for you.. i.e Capital to start a few IM projects, Advertising etc.
     
  3. JustUs

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    I really do not think the problem is college; I think the problem is that there are so many generals that have nothing to do with what you are going to do that you have to take. I cannot speak for the EU. In the US, I just tested out of all the BS generals.
     
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    College is the least of your problems :)
     
  5. klen76

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    Thing is there is really a lot of work, even weekends, there's always new homeworks, assignements and "exams" coming my way. If i did IM and college i would literally have to only work/study and sleep all the time and i can not do that.

    I would also say i am not your average person(not going to go into specifics) and for that reason i am willing to risk more.
     
  6. klen76

    klen76 Registered Member

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    Not sure what you mean by that :) That i should finish it without a problem or what? Because i don't think i can get through easily...really have to put in a lot of effort. More than i am willing to.
     
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    It pays off. When I was in college I was working 3 jobs (one of which was freelancing for SEO) while also taking various marketing & development courses on my own.

    My days were wake up, school, work, work, work, school, sleep. Repeat. For roughly a year.

    Since I own my own company, the degree never did me any good career wise and honestly, I wish I had never gone specifically for the extra time I could have spent working on what I do now.

    However, I'm not saying drop-out. I think that's too much of a life decision for some guy (or gal) on the internet to really give an opinion on.

    My advice is to take a look at your day. I promise you that there are at least 30-120 minutes per day that you waste. Checking social media, video games, traveling 20m each way for lunch, etc. Put that time into whatever you want to build and try to make something of it.

    Even if you do end up taking a 1k/m job, figure out your expenses and manage your time to spend on your side project.

    Most people I know that enter IM and make 6-figures+ (US) a year started with full-time jobs in irrelevant fields and put a little bit of time into their side projects every day and after a little bit of time were able to leave their job.

    I know from those around me that once you leave college, chances of going back are slim. Motivation fades, not thinking you have the time, etc.

    So, I would recommend working on it every minute you have while you're still in school and see what happens.

    30 minutes a day is better than nothing.
     
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    You are in IM.. outsource some of your homework :D

    Being average or not that does not matter, we all have things we could shout about. What matters is what you want to do with your life, if you think you'll be better off by dropping out of college and concentrating on IM then go for it.

    Just don't put all your eggs in one basket.
     
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  9. klen76

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    You are right. But i procrastinate the MOST when i have to study. My studying is really ineffective. I plan to study but i end up doing nothing and just saying "5mins later"... i don't work on projects because i am supposed to be studying. For that matter i should be studying right now, but i really had to get this out because i am fed up.


    I have so much more work to finish this year though - like 2months of studying constantly every day and i don't have the mental power for that, i mean it. What i could do perhaps is fail this year and finish it the next year, while i'll have more time to work on my projects and figure the situation out?
     
  10. klen76

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    The IT is kind of expensive, the homeworks have to be unique and they take hours and hours to complete, i'd be paying 100$s for that shit and there is quite some of them, not to mention if i outsource and don't do it myself, the chance of passing the exam is zero.

    What i think is, i don't need the college. Even if i finished it, i would not find a job but try to do something myself. However had i had a college, if i failed it would be easier to get a job.
     
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    College is free? Quit being a whiny fuck, man up, and get your education. Consider yourself lucky. Most people in the world are not given the opportunities you currently have.
     
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    As someone already mentioned it is better to have a degree and finish college (University).
    The funny thing is that I always thought that school/college/uni is waste of time, but I do have MA degree. It was hard for me to finish school, then it was hard to get into university, then I was about to go into army as I nearly failed my 1st year, but in the end, I have not just finished my BA, but finished MA and got higher degree than most of my friends for whom studying was easy and who enjoyed it (not hated as I did).

    I work in completely different business not related to what I was studying. The degree is for ass wiping, papers don't mean anything, but the whole experience and being educated person for yourself, not for papers - means a lot.
     
  13. klen76

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    Thanks for your oppinion. My question is though - how will college benefit me? Should i do it just because it's free? And the college itself is free, but there are still expenses - apartment costs 200€ monthly.

    also i think free college is a bad thing. So many sociologists and such, who can use the diploma to wipe their ass, but hey the college is easy to complete.
     
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    Only you can make that decision man. I've been in your shoes before... I think you know in your gut what you should do.
     
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    Wah wah wah. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks man. I think it's obvious what i think i should do... But then all these posts create so much doubt - everyone saying "get a degree", so i am looking for those who can speak from experience, eg. they dropped out and regret it or dropped out and would do it again.
     
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    Keep going your be fine , we all fill the same.

    When you got your grades then go for what ever you want we all been there

    Your need grades no matter even uf your cleanning toilets .

    Im , keep it up weekends , and afther collage....
     
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    It doesn't matter if it's free or not, the important thing is that you need to have some interest in the shit you're studying, cuz without motivation and waking up every single day thinking "What dafuq am I doing with my life" will lead you to nowhere. I was feeling the same as you when I studied for a degree in a subject I never had interest in, I wasted 2 fucking years of studying this shit till I decided to change my course from Scandinavian studies to Computer science and information management. Absolutely no connection between these 2 courses, but I definitely see the difference now. Back in 2014 I was depressed AF, sleeping all day, going to lectures once in a month etc. and now I'm felling like the mighty wizard @pewep and telling myself "What was I thinking back then ???".
     
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    College is your kingdom to explore and experience. find your interests/hobbies/career - learn and build a foundation of skills and knowledge to go into the real world. Yes college isnt for everyone but if youre there and paid tuition already, start changing your attitude and start looking at college like your playground where youre king to do whatever you want - slide,climb,play tag,etc hopefully you get the point. Everything I said is Easier said than done. If you cant do it yourself, find people with similar passions - these people can be eventual life long friends, whats risk the in that? Awkward dumb talk or 20+ years of amazing friendship? . Your grades? Do your best to stay in and TEST, TEST, TEST till you find the subject you like which goes back to my point of explore and experience. Good luck youll need it.
     
  20. klen76

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    Hmh i don't know, you are all talking like find hobbies, interests etc... like if college was some kind of a side thing lol... Pretty much during the exams, which is like half of the time i have no life due to studying and completing stupid assignements.

    One of the questions, that hasn't been answered yet is; how will the college benefit me?
    I am not doing it to feel on a higher level to be educated, and i don't think a programmer in some company is a good job. In fact i would hate to be doing that.

    While i'll be doing assignements, like the rest of the herd for these 3 years, i could have already made hundreds of thousands of dollars instead. That's the way i see it.