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Cloudflare for pbn

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by websitedesign, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. websitedesign

    websitedesign Registered Member

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    Is cloud flare use for pbn still working ? Can google discover your true ip ?
     
  2. pasdoy

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    I always wondered why no one did this. Cloudflare or Cloudront and use something like Gatsby to generate the static blogs.
     
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    i've done this before. i've seen guides online that say there should be no issue with this, it's a very budget way to run a PBN
     
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    how could it be better than having a CDN? I ask because you said budget, so I assume there's better alternatives.
     
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    Cloudflare is a CDN and free for the basic account. They have tons of IP.
    They offer free accounts so they can collect data on traffic and use that to enrich their signature and sell more.
     
  6. I know SEO

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    A CDN just delivers content. It does not hide your IP.

    The DDOS protection feature of cloudflare is what hides your IP.

    Any DDOS alternative will do what you want.
     
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  7. pasdoy

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    Interesting thanks all or your help.

    A CDN is also a distributed cache (multiple servers) between your server (or S3) and your clients. Unless the provider explicitly give back your IP, I have issue understanding how the client can get my real server IP in the request life cycle. It is not a pure reverse proxy. What is the use of a CDN that does no caching?

    How come this one only and not the CDN? I know "list based" DDOS protection where a third party analyze the connection first before passing it to you. This doesn't change the origin/destination at all.
     
  8. I know SEO

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    The CDN will load content from another IP such as images and scripts. Your website is still on your server using its server IP.

    The DDOS protection works by masking your IP, similar to how a proxy would hide your IP.
     
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    CDN cannot protect you. CDN is only a content distribution network and it fetches the data from the main server. What one needs to look into is the A records which can easily detect where you are hosting.

    As @I know SEO rightly pointed, you will need to get their DDoS protection feature for $200/m per site in order to mask your main IP and run completely behind Cloudflare.

    Either way, just going all Cloudflare is not recommended and doesn't look natural either.
     
  10. pasdoy

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    I tend to challenge this assumption. Yes your server is hit by the edge server (a new request) to get the content when the edge server cache has to refresh. The initial client request stays the same, from his location to the edge server, thus the ip of the edge server.

    Maybe they can inspect the request from the edge server to yours? I have in mind cloudfront with CNAME redirection at DNS level. I don't like to argue for fun, just wanted to have others opinion. It will take time to sink in for me.