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Cloudflare Faces Lawsuit For Assisting Pirate Sites

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  1. The Scarlet Pimp

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    As one of the leading providers of DDoS protection and an easy to use CDN service, Cloudflare is used by millions of sites across the globe.

    This includes many "pirate" sites who rely on the U.S. based company to keep server loads down.

    The Pirate Bay is one of the best-known customers, but there are literally are thousands of other 'pirate' sites that use services from the San Francisco company.

    As a result, copyright holders are not happy with CloudFlare's actions. Just recently, the Hollywood-affiliated group Digital Citizens Alliance called the company out for helping pirate sites to stay online.

    Adult entertainment outfit ALS Scan agrees and has now become the first dissenter to take CloudFlare to court. In a complaint filed at a California federal court, ALS describes piracy as the greatest threat to its business.

    The rise of online piracy has significantly hurt the company's profits, they argue, noting that “pirate” sites are not the only problem.

    "The problems faced by ALS are not limited to the growing presence of sites featuring infringing content, or 'pirate' sites. A growing number of service providers are helping pirate sites thrive by supporting and engaging in commerce with these sites," ALS writes These service providers include hosting companies, CDN providers, but also advertising brokers.

    The lawsuit at hand zooms in on two of them, CloudFlare and the advertising provider Juicy Ads.

    According to the complaint, both companies have failed to cut their ties with alleged pirate sites, even though they received multiple takedown notices.

    CloudFlare and Juicy Ads' terms state that they terminate accounts of repeat infringers. However, according to ALS both prefer to keep these sites on as customers, so they can continue to profit from them.
     
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    lo what a joke.
     
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    Ok so then let's go after Google next for "assisting" other piracy sites by delivering them valuable web traffic. This is a another fear-mongering tactic by the media companies who are being bled dry as a result of piracy.

    "Divide and conquer" about sums it up.
     
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    Quoting as I was gonna say the same. We could also go after browsers for allowing people access to things like Tor which has a ton of illegal stuff (mostly child porn), VPN companies that on their website's promote torrenting or getting into websites your country may not allow you to visit, etc.

    Just because someone buys an axe at Wal-Mart doesn't mean Wal-Mart is liable when they kill someone with it.
     
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    Adult Content isn't actually copyrighted under US law, but too many corrupt judges rule in favor of adult companies to help their lawyer friends out.
     
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    While I agree that this is stupid, they've pretty much damned themselves with their own TOS.

    Here's the part of Juicy Ads TOS referred to in the article:

    That's pretty much gonna get them into a ton of trouble right there. It doesn't matter if adult content is copyrighted or not. They got busted, and you know how California feels about piracy. Hollywood is there. Piracy directly effects that state.

    Either Juicy Ads and CloudFlare are gonna have to cut ties with TPB and other piracy websites or they're gonna get taken to court. And I'm pretty sure they don't want that.
     
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    It sucks that they wouldn't be able to win in court, even the Supreme Court is very corrupt. They parade around as being non corrupt, by using "fancy" terms to sound like they actually know the law, but in reality they are just ignoring it.
     
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    Classic case of whack a mole by "important" judges and Hollywood. They waste so much time, money and effort going after one small company rather than coming up with a plan to eradicate torrenting. Why is it 10x easier for me to torrent a movie instead of buying it? Hollywood is so full of egomaniacs. They really think I am going to pay $10 - $30 to watch the latest Fast & Furious movie that is just a rehash of the last 6.

    Drake this summer released a song with DJ Khaled, I went to listen to it because I read about it on Twitter. Couldn't find it on Youtube, Itunes, or even Soundcloud. Turns out it's on Tidal which is $10/month. They expect me to pay $10 a month, use a whole different system that I'll probably hate to listen to one song? lool, no.

    But whatever, it's unfortunate for Cloudfare but this won't affect me at all. It's just the risk that every single aspiring businessman has to deal with.
     
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    They can't eradicate it. That's impossible. But they can scare some people and act like they care.

    It's easier to put on airs than do actual work.

     
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    just like when they had cable companies send out notices to people who downloaded "game of thrones" episodes. are they going to sue over 5 million people one-at-a-time?
     
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    Lmao that didn't really stop anything did it? People still pirate that show.

    This may scare some companies, but most of them won't care. Their bottom line is more important than millionaires crying about being victims of theft.

    I find it hard to feel sorry for rich people and faceless corporations.
     
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    Last December a Virginia federal jury ruled that Internet provider Cox Communications was responsible for the copyright infringements of its subscribers.

    The ISP was found guilty of willful contributory copyright infringement and must pay music publisher BMG Rights Management $25 million in damages.

    The verdict was a massive victory for the music company and a disaster for Cox, but the case is not closed yet.

    After a failed motion for judgment as a matter of law earlier this month, the ISP has now informed the court that it will take the case to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.

    Cox denies any wrongdoing and hopes to get a judgment in its favor at the appeals court.
     
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    What the hell?

    Like they can control what people do with their internet connections.

    That's just stupid.