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Churn and burn site - rankings dropped like hell suddenly

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SalieriJazz, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. SalieriJazz

    SalieriJazz Regular Member

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    Well, long story short. Started a churn and burn tumblr 12 days ago (not so nigh competition on that niche). In day 5, it got in the first page, then day 6, I had serps like this: 5, 4, 7, 12. I had those serps for a week straight, then when I woke up today, bam ... serps: 62, 71, 63, 88. Anybody got any idea what happened?

    All I did what blast that tumblr with around 40-50k links with GSA, and started tier 2 to it few days ago too.
     
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  2. miedy

    miedy Senior Member

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    what do you expect? that's why its called "churn and burn"... Easily get ranked and then easily lose it...
     
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  3. sogeking

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    google lit you on fire
     
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  4. IamKing

    IamKing Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    To stay long at 1st page, the link growth should be natural not all of sudden. Check after 2-3 days it maybe dance in rankings.
     
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    That's exactly what "Churn & Burn" is.

    Most probably its lost.
     
  6. SalieriJazz

    SalieriJazz Regular Member

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    Oh, come on man ... I've seen guys with fb pages or other churn and burn sites ranked since november 2013. They are still at the top. :)
     
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    Rule #1 of SEO, just because some other site is blah blah blah that doesn't mean it will apply to your site.

    Google is not perfect, and too many people try to make "If X, Then Y" arguments when doing so is pointless.

    Your site tanked, start building another one. You can wait a week or so to see if your original site bounces back, but if not just abandon ship.
     
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  8. SEOnetic

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    That is easy come and easy go?
     
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    For one all websites start high up when they are new and drop down, so nothing new there. Churn and burns are not just whack 50k links at a site and sit back and hope, there are many more tactics you should be using. If the comp is not high, you should just rank it with a stead flow of web2 articles and high pr comments.
     
  10. SalieriJazz

    SalieriJazz Regular Member

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    After the first blast of around 20-30k links, I continued to build links, around 4-5k per day. Basically the flow was continuousely.
     
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    start a new one, and dont use tumblr for churn and burn
     
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    50,000 links in the space of 12 days.. What do you expect?

    That's why it's called churn & burn.
     
  13. Peter Ngo

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    Even though it is churn and burn, being penalized that fast is not normal to be honest, you should put yourself as "Bad Luick SalieriJazz" or something.

    It happened to me once but never been so unlucky like you lol. penalized in my 22th day after spamming if my memories serve me right and received a manual review email from WMT even though i never used WMT in that site, i used Statcounter instead.

    But all other sites/web 2.0 i tested stay up for quite some times, 1-2 months.
     
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    It may not be Google at all.

    Tumblr themselves are very conscious of getting a Penguin slap and ban/demote/turn of crawler access - to sub sites of theirs that seem to be attracting a lot of link spam.

    It could be Tumblr protecting themselves.

    When you build on a third party platform (Blogger, Tumblr, Wordpress.com etc) the first battle is with the site owner NOT Google.
    Penguin and Panda affect them as well.

    Scritty
     
  15. DamageX

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    Uhm... How would Tumblr tank your Google rankings?!?
     
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    Dont panic, this is a good test case.

    Try a few things now. Build a few web 2.0's as a tier 1 then blast those with links, see how it affects rankings of the NEW site.

    Try dripping them a bit more instead of a big blast at the beginning. Try varying anchor text even more. You have a place to start now that you know it can work, so take the info you have and experiment.
     
  17. tb303

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    also, from your post it sounds like you stopped building tier 1 links, so if your not actually penalized google might be thinking the 'buzz' about your site is now over. next time keep the links coming at a steady pace. That said, it's a big drop for that situation.
     
  18. SalieriJazz

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    I already said in one of my posts here this: "After the first blast of around 20-30k links, I continued to build links, around 4-5k per day. Basically the flow was continuousely."

    I didn't stop building links.
     
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    I highly doubt that tumblr can notice a site that early unless they have a automated algorithm
     
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    As DamagaX alread said: a drop in ranking can only result from Google. If Tumblr was suspicious about his subsite, they would have just deleted it.