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Channel Case Study of Youtube Tricks - How Did They GROW SO FAST?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Catm6, Jun 22, 2017.

  1. Catm6

    Catm6 Junior Member

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    On my last post, I spoke of Toys and ME, the kid channel that exploded like crazy since day one. We are trying to discover what the trick is. How?

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    This channel is opened May 5, 2016 about a year and a half AFER my channel was opened. It has just over 100 videos, my channel has 400+. Their channel has over 500k subs!!! Mine has 23k subs. lol . My high quality videos and my nice thumbnails and good SEO are irrelevant.

    What is the first thing that strikes you as you look at it? YES. After youtube's update their view numbers crash. Previously their videos had millions of views.

    Fun part of it is when channels leave stats open:
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    Look at the number of views on day one! Hit statistics on the video then choose DAILY to see it. You can clearly tell that they were using fake views to hit trending. Fun thing to note is the awful SEO on the video, proving that SEO is just about irrelevant when you can cheat the right way.

    So question becomes again. How do we replicate this?

    I am trying. If you have any input please pm me. I am working closely with my friend who owns a view service to crack the method. I am starting tomorrow again to do testing. Youtube update put a snag in our testing but now seems to be ok again. I will continue to keep everyone posted.

    MOD EDIT: Removed instances of OP outing another youtube channel
     
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  2. PrincessPink

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    Kids with ipads. I let my little cousin borrow my iPad and I didn't hear from her for hours. She was on youtube watching kid videos. Kids will watch these types of videos all day, even the same video multiple times.

    Eta: You can replicate this by making videos geared towards children with simple titles so that they can search for it themselves, and the power of playlisting. (That playlisting shit works) & an eye-catching thumbnail.
     
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    If you would p*m me we could talk a bit.Its not just the views likes etc which gives you the love from youtube.A channel grows best if your vids are in the suggested video .To get there you need to do some other staff.
    Send me a P*M with your skyp3 so we can talk since i own a bit more about know how which my wife forces me know to use for a channel she planned for years :)

    Send me a P*M with your skyp3 since i can't p*m as new member

    Please remember kids are mostly not searching for video clips but clicking on suggested video which thumbnail please them at most
     
  4. Catm6

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    No. That is a myth. There is some truth to it but you have to get into the eyes of the audience first and that is the point here. If you look at the stats of all these channels they get all their views the first week. Then it just falls. This is because they get into trending the first week. It applies to all channels. It all has to do with getting into trending.

    Sure. Pm sent
     
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    Spam this in a few big communities where moms hang out /parenting forums etc.+ facebook groups and the job is done.
     
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  6. Catm6

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    I've watched my own daughters viewing habits. She never searches. She clicks what is in the recommended list. That's what kids do. They don't search. That is also a myth.

    Unfortunately that also hasn't worked for us. Tried it. We have a decent social media following. It doesn't translate into views. That seems to be a myth as well.
     
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    Hmmm I wonder why the ratings on their older videos are hidden and I was talking about their channel, but it could be that they were using a method to buy views and get in "Trending" somehow.
     
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    If my son needs a specific video then he speaks with Google. What he remembered in the video is what he says. He does not know how to write and read. And yes, he can watch the same video 10 times.
     
  9. Catm6

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    I agree. Once they have a video they like they can watch it quite a few times. If you examine his viewing habits, however, you will notice he watches briefly then checks the recommended list below. He will not search again and again. Search traffic is VERY low for this niche. I have found that it boils down to getting into trending if you want your channel to grow.

    Yes, and this is the big question. HOW. It must be relatively inexpensive since a trending video won't earn you too much money. It will however gain you a bunch of real subs and a real audience if you keep repeating the trick on each video.
     
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  10. Speedlearner

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    What if you try to boost 1 video to 500k - 1M views and of course some likes and couple of share to get into trending mode have you done that already?
     
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    This is the question. I've tried
    -one million views
    -300k views plus 800 comments + 6000 likes and 800 dislikes.
    - some other smaller buys

    Unsuccessful in trending.
     
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    I'd like to know what the secret is as well. The fall off on that YouTube mermaid video seems pretty steep.

    If this was a video that was trending, wouldn't the fall off be relatively slow.

    Something abnormal happened that first day that was not replicated throughout the life of the video.

    Look at this video:



    After it pops as high as 500,000 and it drops, but remains relatively steady. I think that steadiness was when the video was trending.
     
  13. Catm6

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    Yes. So if you look at any video on any channel they get all their views the first two weeks. After that they drop and remain where they drop. This is trending. Sometimes the initial boost is unsuccessful and trending doesn't happen so there is a peak then a dip. Trending tends to be short. 48hrs if you're lucky. 24 hrs usually.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification, op.
     
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    Just wondering OP the videos that you boosted to 1M and 300k views after that is there any organic traffic coming in? whats your traffic now going on
     
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    how to make a video go in the trending list?
     
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    I'm sure they buy subscribers and views? It's obvious, no?
     
  18. Catm6

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    This is how uploading and views goes for me.
    If I do a normal upload, the video is lucky to get 100 or so views. Then dies. No suggested views at all. No videos sending traffic to it.
    If I do an upload with 10k views, the video ranks for 2-3 keywords briefly and gets some organic search traffic. Video settles at like 50 or so views per day. Some of my own videos send traffic to it.
    If I upload using 300k views the video ranks for just about every keyword for a few days. Some organic traffic is gained during the boost and gets like 5k- 10k or so real views. After a week or so, the video drops again to the 100 or so views per day. For first week or so, some larger videos are sending traffic our way.
    If I upload using 1 million views, the results are similar to 300k. Only difference is the traffic that occurs DURING the boost. More suggested views from other videos that are big.

    SEO is done well. Our videos are beautiful quality. You can see we spend alot of time when creating a video. NONE OF THAT MATTERS.
    Youtube is one big trick. No wonder all these channels that are big, know eachother. They are either relatives or friends of other big channels. If I figure out the trick of course I will help friend and family do it as well. Then when someone asks HOW DID YOU GROW YOUR CHANNEL, you just say, oh it was luck. I have no idea. I must be a lucky person as well as my friends and my family who all have channels and are somehow lucky as well. LOL
     
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    Have you played with the thumbnails op?

    I don't know your videos, but even if they are good the thumbnails have to be eye catching.

    I'm also going to assume, for the sake of argument, the topic/niche is one that trends easily.

    Your experience mirrors my own. I have only boosted a video once to over 10k views and it got some organic traffic, but without boosting I'm seeing 100 views or less.

    There is a trick here, somewhere.
     
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    lahpakam Newbie

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    the trick is

    1). WE DON"T RELY on youtube for the first significant boost before youtube pick our channel / video and give more exposure.

    2). after we manage to get the point one above, WE DON"T RELY on youtube to get the ball rolling, it is our viewers decisions WHETHER they click our video on the suggested list or even homepage, WHETHER they watch till the end, WHETHER they click our other videos, etc. youtube only collect the data, compute and put our vid into where it belongs to.

    fake boost is all about point number one, and it's NOT the only way of boosting, but it's useless if point number two missing. it doesn't matter how many subs we have, how many videos we uploaded if our normal views less than 100 then our channel has no weight it's almost like a new channel. it doesn't matter how good we think of our channel or videos, the real data is there and that's the truth.

    at this point, the trick is our mind set. you will running around in circle at point number one. understand the phase and purposes. for example if you see your competitor has VERY HIGH engagement on IG and FB (i don't know about their subs views but i bet it is high too), then work on that too. if you think he faking it too... <insert sad music here, 10 frames>

    work on the intent and interest, learn your analytic, that's the magic secret. the thing is, when youtube already had gave us exposure which results in organics and we could not capitalising on it, yes there's a problem but it's not on youtube side or some magical things. AND blame your organic viewers if you can't blame yourself, because youtube only collect their session data, compute, etc.

    i'm sorry i'm blunt. but you really have to able to capitalising on the fake boost, that's the point of boosting, legit or fake. at some point it is viewers decisions. that's why the first question i asked what's your subs status watch time tell you. it's just one aspect of one factor, but it can tell the whole story, what to work on, what to focus on.

    youtube cake is SO BIG, unlike google serp where most people click on one of the top 10 results and gone, youtube is a closed circuit, fake traffic can get us to the high traffic tracks but it's not the reason we succeed.
     
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