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Changing Web Host -- Will It Kill My Search Engine Rankings? I Need Some Expert Advice...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by peter73, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. peter73

    peter73 Regular Member

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    I currently have a piece of **** host, and it has been the main thing that's preventing me from earning money online, I was working on a competitive keyword and after months of work when I was at the top 3, my host just decided that they want to do a "maintenance" for 3 days. By the time that they went online again, I was back at page 2 for the KW. Now, after 2 months I am nearing at the top again, and of course, they decided that it is the best time to do a maintenance AGAIN.

    I've had it, I've been wanting to change host now for how many months, but the main reason that's stopping me is because I've read too much articles on the net that said when they changed host, they lost all of their rankings and such. Is this true? Since I'm using a fake name at my current host and the other host that I'm transferring to is another fake name, so will google see it as a change of owner? And plunge my site to nowhere AGAIN?

    Here is the situation....

    I currently have 2 other websites at my new host (the better host). Both of that site uses a dedicated c-class IP and one uses a public info while the other uses a whois guard. My host (better) says that I can host 7 domains at that account, but when I bought a second domain, it only became an "add-on" domain, so does that mean that when I transfer my other domain (from crappy host) to my better host, it will just be another add-on domain? Turning it to just a sub-domain? And should I order another Dedicated c-class IP to my other domain (from old host) when I transfer it to my new hosting?

    Because I've done a lot of link building campaigns where I've blasted 1 site from my old host and 1 site from my new host, will I get I get penalized when Google revisits those links and find that those 2 websites are now hosted on a single hosting account?

    Thank you for the person who will answer my questions....
     
  2. navimeister

    navimeister Regular Member

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    I have changed host about 3 months ago. I simply didn't switched domain registrar but left it with the old hosting company. Set everything up at my new host and changed the dns settings of the domain. Didn't experience any negative rank change.
     
  3. peter73

    peter73 Regular Member

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    When you switched host, did your other host already have a domain? So making your domain an add-on domain? And did you install a dedicated IP on both of them?

    Thanks
     
  4. navimeister

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    Yes, I had an other domain and added the other later as addon. I didn't get a dedicated ip for all my sites because they are not in the same niche.
     
  5. goads

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    dont ever make addon domains for your money sites. make sure they are seperate ips. I use seohosting.
     
  6. Scripteen

    Scripteen Elite Member

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    Changing host doesn't make you lose an ranking. Also addon domains are not actually sub domains. You can still access the website through it's own domain.
     
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    I once moved from a uk to us server and had a bit of a dip. I'd bite the bullet and make the switch, seems like you'll keep having drops anyway if you stay with this host.
     
  8. peter73

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    That is my problem since I am both of that website is on the Weight Loss niche, and the one that I am transferring is also in the weight loss niche, but luckily, I have dedicated IP for both, and am planning to install another dedicated IP IF I migrate my domain from the crappy host. This is ok right?

    Yes, they are separate IP, both of my domain currently being hosted on my new hosting account has dedicated IP, but the 2nd domain is still an addon domain...

    This means that I won't have any problems if I use a dedicated IP when I migrate my domain? How about the whois protect? Currently, I only have one installed, and that is from the addon domain on my new hosting (with dedi IP). Should I also but a whois protect when I migrate my other domain?

    Yeah, it really is one of the main reasons why I lose my visitors, this frickin' host doesn't even have a PHP5 installed, it says 4.4.9... So I can't even install WP super cache because it requires PHP5 :(

    Thanks to all the people who replied so far. I am currently reading articles on the SEO effects f migrating, but nothing beats real advice/experiences from fellow IM'ers.
     
  9. Mr Ex

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    Add on domain means a domain using the same hosting account. It has nothing to do with serps. Sub domain will share the same folder with your main domain. Add on will not, unless you redirect it and set it that way. The only disadvantage is if you dont buy extra ip for your addon domain then your competitor might do a whois search and can trace all your money sites. So i suggest you purchase additional ip for your each domain.

    Also, you should tell people with which hosting company you are having issues so that other people can be aware of the company and dont get burned in the future.
     
  10. Bross

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    G doesn't give a damn about your hosting company but your website's load speed.
     
  11. blackmamba456

    blackmamba456 Junior Member

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    I switched from a really shit host on a UK server (I was trying to rank in the UK). It had its own dedicated I.P.

    After a while I couldn't put up with the poor loading speeds, I switched the domain to my hostgator account, it became an addon domain, sharing an account with 20 other domains.

    No dip in rankings was seen at any point. I have since done more SEo on the domain, it ranks number one. Many of my other domains on the same account use links from the same sources, Google has not dealt any kind of punishment as far as I can tell.

    I think making a move to a more reliable host is definatelya good move and you should not worry about a fall in rankings.
     
  12. blacktrilby

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    I have found that a dedicated ip is best.
    Example:
    I had 10 autoblogs using addon domain ie all same ip.
    4 weeks ago I bought a dedicated server and transferred all the blogs to it on dedicated ip's and do not think it is a coincidence that all 10 have at least doubled in traffic without doing any more seo than I was already doing.
    7 of the sites were well aged (at least 2 years old) so it isn't as though they were picking up in serps. Also my indexed paged have risen quite a bit.
    So in answer to your question.......In my experience yes you will suffer but no one can say for sure.
    It would be interesting if you could update this thread when you see some hopefully postive, or negative results.
     
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  13. peter73

    peter73 Regular Member

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    I sent my host a message now, and they will begin to migrate my domain into my new host as an addon domain.

    One last question, can somebody explain to me why an addon domain shows this...
    Domain 1 = My first domain on my new hosting
    Domain 2 = The addon domain for Domain 1

    When I went to addon domain into my cpanel I saw that Domain 2 is there as an addon domain and also, the redirection is set to NONE. So no problem there right?

    BUT when I checked the Subdomain section on cpanel, DOMAIN 2 is also listed there! It is listed as a subdomain on Domain 1, so the address is like this...

    www.domain2.domain1.com

    And when I try to visit the URL above it takes me to the page of what I normally see when I visit www.Domain2.com

    But on the REDIRECTION section of the subdomain, it's also stated there as "NONE"
    Is that a problem? or that is normal?

    This is really stressful...
     
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    peter73 Regular Member

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    And yes, I would be more than happy to update this thread as far as my results negative or positive.