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Changing Domain Name Question

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by chickenboom, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. chickenboom

    chickenboom Junior Member

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    So..., since my site is pretty new, I didn't know anything about SEO, that's why I didn't buy an aged domain, I found a 7 year old and 9 year old domains, where my site is only 4 months, it has 3-4k backlinks showing up, O_O so I was wondering if I should change, and if anyone has some tips on doing this, i.e. faster way to do all 301 redirects.
     
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  2. DocBrown

    DocBrown Regular Member

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    Buying an aged domain is not as effective as it used to be in my opinion. I bought one a while ago and i don't think it made a difference. Google are on to this now and know that if a domain is 7 years old but is then registered in a new name - that they should really be considering this as a brand new domain PARTICULARLY if the site makes drastic changes in the change over.

    This last sentence brings up an important point about backlinks you mentioned. You see if you buy a domain that has 3000 backlinks. What you're really buying is a domain with it's inner pages that has 3000 backlinks. Now when you just buy the domain, all those inner pages will be deleted IE you're not buying the sites inner pages when you just buy the domain. Meaning that in terms of backlinks all you're getting is maybe 200-300 backlinks. These were the backlinks that were pointing to the domains homepage. The other 2700 or so backlinks will no longer be valid becuase they are pointing to pages that no longer exist.

    In short - pick the domain name you like best - regardless of age, PR or number of backlinks.
     
  3. jerzydawg

    jerzydawg Supreme Member

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    This was well said.

    I believe domain age has less of a impact now. I see newer sites (Fresh sites - Less than a few months old) take over the top dougs with some age on them in SERPs. Fresh content and good backlinks beats any domain age.
     
  4. chickenboom

    chickenboom Junior Member

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    No, my current site domain has 3k backlinks, not the domain I'm buying,
    also I think I know what to do, go in Webmaster tools, add my new domain, insert the script into .htacess to redirect to my new domain, my site isn't really in the rankings right now, got knocked out after the google dance. But from what you said about new domains ranking in the front pages, I did some Market Samurai research, although there are some sites with very little domain age in years as in, 0-3 yr age, most are at 5 and up. It seems it would be safer putting 125k backlinks on a 7 yr old domain instead of one that's only 4 months old.
     
  5. jerzydawg

    jerzydawg Supreme Member

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    You want to put 125K backlinks in a domain? If so, how fast?
     
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    marceauct Junior Member

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    With my short experience my new domains do as well as my aged domains, it seems the quality backlinks are the diffrence.
     
  7. chickenboom

    chickenboom Junior Member

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    Probably choosing between dripable with it's like 1 or 2k backlinks a day or order packages by 15k
     
  8. csyhomme

    csyhomme Regular Member

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    on the new domain or old ?
     
  9. DocBrown

    DocBrown Regular Member

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    You'll find that when you buy the domain, that in market samurai where you go in and put in you're domain that your "5 year old" domain that you recently bought say for example will simply have a line (-) across the age of the domain. Meaning that you're not being credited with an aged domain. It's only people (as far as i know) who've kept the domain registered in their name all those years that are given credit for having an aged domain. In other words - you can't fake age simply by buying an aged domain.
     
  10. frappertank

    frappertank Junior Member

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    If you switch domains, you'll of course have to set up 301 redirects from all the links on the old domain over to links on the new domain.

    But this is usually easily accomplished using mod redirect in the .htaccess file on your server (assuming you have a 'nix server).

    If you have a windows server for some reason, I wouldn't even bother to switch domains - it's complicated.

    If you have a 'nix server, it's easy, but remember that not all of the PageRank or LinkJuice will transfer over through the redirects (even if they're 301s). If you're lucky, you'll retain about 90% of the LinkJuice of your original domain.

    If you're happy with your rankings and traffic and sales on the current domain, there's no reason at all to switch (the move offers only risks).

    If you think you need a change, considering your current domain is not so old, why not go for it.
     
  11. chickenboom

    chickenboom Junior Member

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    Obvs the new one if I'm changing

    Yeah, I've seen ones with just a -, not sure if that happens to everyone, at least hope it doesn't.


    I found a script for it already that switches the domain automatically without having to every single page. I'm not in the rankings right now. I'm hoping to get 25k+ backlinks, pop them into Lindexed, and let them get crawled.
     
  12. chickenboom

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    Just received my domains, what do you guys think about keeping the site up for a month but leave a notice on the old domain or should I just redirect my old site to my new one? and maybe write a notice on my main site about the old domain.
     
  13. kvmcable

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    Build new sites on the aged domains is my suggestion. If you already have 3k backlinks to the current site then why mess with it? You're already on your way.

    What you're suggesting is like heading out for a trip and 100 miles down the road you noticed you forgot your suitcase and have to turn around and go back and then start your trip all over again. It will take you twice or three times as long to get in SERP good gracious again if you start switching domains. The disruption you'll cause in the SERPs will negate any advantage you might gain with an aged domain.
     
  14. chickenboom

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    Well, my old domain, targeted such a low amount of traffic, plus there was some competition, didn't know about the keyword much yet, so now, I got a new domain, I can pop my WpSynIt backlinks properly into Lindexed, have some high PR links and drop a good amount of backlinks on it, hoping to get a better start this time around.