I think there is more money in making products for people who want to make money than there is making money for yourself, but that is what the smart do ... sell tools for other smart, or slightly less smart folk. Chad we love you - and so do I. About your WIKI - I have been doing somethinking and have some issues that maybe others can learn from chat about or etc.... 1 - Infiltrating WIKI as you say in your videos is amazing. BUT you must have a team of moderators not just you or one. This is to save you time having to spend hours building a profile up editing stuff. 2 - Despite that.. my question is a good one... Even if you did do this and had many mods with existing love on the site helping you. there would still be an influx, skew or trend toward your topic. Lets say you promote Brown Shoes. and have an authority site called brownshoes.com One minute there are no links on brown shoes on wiki, the next brown shoes are all over the place - even if the mods have been carefully spreading out the love. Month one. - No talk topics, or links to Brownshoes. Month three - Lots and lots of pages all linking to brown shoes all of a sudden... surely they will see through that? I love the TALK thing though but its only good for ONE reference. I am infiltrating as we speak - I have added some existing users our brown shoes link... but surely this is gonna look suss right?