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Cease and Desist - Damn - Need help?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bigg_capp, Oct 16, 2010.

  1. bigg_capp

    bigg_capp Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Ok, so all newbies, this is one reason you should diversify; because you never know when a source of income could be shut off, instantly!

    I had a website ranked, spot one, page one on Google with a content locker$$. I am actually ranked higher then the actual authority site. This was eventually the problem.

    I received a Cease and Desist letter because the company's name is a registered trademark, and I had that as part of my url sub-domain. Apparently this is not allowed.

    Two Questions:
    1. Is there any easy way to copy a Wordpress site onto another Url?
    2. Is there any way that I can cloak the link or anything to preserve the traffic and my ranking? The amount of work to rank was ridiculous, just to lose it all.

    Any insight would be appreciated.

    -Capp
     
  2. eNcrypTioN

    eNcrypTioN Newbie

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    I don't have any insight to offer as I'm a newbie but sorry to hear that. Diversity is definitely a must.
     
  3. fizzik

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    question 1. Yes you can transfer a wordpress installation to a different URL. You will just have to change the settings in the db to reflect the new url and also the db connection details in the wp-config.php if you db details change.
     
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    Would a redirect work? I'm not sure if that would be acceptable or still infringement. That way you'll still get the traffic.
     
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    simple. just do a 301 redirect to your new domain.
     
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    try the most commonly searched misspelling of the name.
     
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    fizzik answered question #1.
    popcrdom29 and mudbutt have the right idea for question #2.

    OP - you're best bet is to move the blog to a different subdirectory or even a different domain if you want. Then set up a 301 redirect on your main domain redirecting the old subdirectory name to the new location.

    Most of the linkjuice you've built up for the old name will transfer across to the new name. The old name will basically disappear from the serps and the new name should rise in the serps fairly rapidly to close to where the old name has been.

    You'll probably lose some position initially, but you'll have a much better chance at getting the new subdirectory back to the top than by starting seo over from scratch.

    This isn't usually an option for most people in similar situations because they had an actual domain that they need to give up. Since you're just dealing with a subdomain you still have control of your main domain.

    Move the blog to a new subdomain with a different name, set up the redirect, and then start building backlinks to the new url to work it's way back to the top.
     
  8. demoniox

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    1.- get backup buddy plugin and move your wordpress install.
    2.- Put a 301 redirect to your new url.
    3.- done.
     
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  9. MiLiTARYiV

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    Wouldn't a 301 redirect be only temporary because I had a website getting 1k unique a day and got shut down. Every said do a 301 but I always though t it would be only temporary before the website eventually fall out of ranks.
     
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    Why can't the OP just move the hosting offshore, get private registration and just send a certified letter saying he doesn't own the website?! I have a director level position at a company and we dealt with this before.
     
  11. supamanjon

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    well if they send you a letter then you cannot use their trademark name i assume in your domain name. You could also mention that you are in no way affiliated with that company and ask them if that's fine.
     
  12. mudbutt

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    Its permanent. Its effectively telling the SE's that URL isnt there anymore, but it will pass linkjuice to your new domain so your SERPS will suffer minimal damage.

    a 302 redirect is temporary..301 is permanent.
     
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    A 301 by definition is a Permanent Redirect. All those backlinks that you've made to the old url will still remain active links as long as the main domain still exists and a 301 redirect is in place. It lets the browsers and SEs know that the pages have moved permanently and can now be found at the new address defined by the 301 redirect.

    Here are some other threads worth reading about 301 redirects.
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...e-optimization-help-required.html#post1826988

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/227111-question-about-301-redirect.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/225571-page-rank-transferable.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/214204-need-301-a.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/213906-301-redirects-will-help-hurt.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...198632-301-redirect-google-serp-question.html

    Hope that helps a little,
    Wolf
     
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    Hey Demoniox, Back up buddy kicks ass. It did it's thing. It even re installs WordPress. That saved me hours trying to figure that out myself.

    Wolf that helps a lot. Now the company will see the redirect and respect it has moved to a new URL. I suspect I will lose ranking, but at least I will keep traffic flowing generating some income while I re-rank. The good part is I know the pattern already to get it ranked, so this should help re-rank faster.

    Thanks everyone. I'm glad this happened on a Friday night otherwise I would be sitting at work thinking about this all day. (I'm a compulsive aggressive maniac)

    What have I learned:
    1. Diversify - Once you get one thing going, it's time to get two and three things right behind it. Luckily I have about 12 :)

    2. Don't spend any money with the anticipation that you are going to continue to earn at the same rate all the time. Luckily, I don't touch any IM unless it's for other IM things.

    3. Keep a path record for back linking so you know what worked. Even if some of your backlinks don't show up on SEO Quake, it doesn't hurt to use them again. Just divide the work into even increments over time so it doesn't look shady.

    4. It's been far easier to create a lot of little money makers ($10-$15/day) under the radar then 1 killer ($100+/ day). They seem to always have a hiccup, that gets cut short right before I'm ready to tell my boss to f-off and pick out my Gallardo....but I will hit the big one. Trust me

    5. Lastly - never pay for a forum because this one & you guys rock! I did the PPC Coach 14 day trial - I couldn't believe you have to pay for that info, that comes here free.

    Thanks for all your help - Sorry to babble but I've been up since I left for work yesterday morning. I'm not responsible for anything I right at this point. 26 hrs...No food and 6 Redbulls :bubblegum

    YOU GUYS ROCK!!
     
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    I got a cease and desist from G*ogle Local!

    I warned people in another thread but no one listens
     
  16. MiLiTARYiV

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    Go offshore plain and simple
     
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    Who was hosting the site? Was the domain completely locked? (this happens if it was a formal ICANN request) I would see if you can move the site to another registar, if so do it a couple times... Host in one place and register in another for an extra level of protection.

     
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    Interesting I was under the impression that the rules were not enforced for sub.domains. So you were doing something like nikon.camera-reviews.com?

    but camera-reviews.com/nikon is Okay?

    I'm thinking just because they sent you a C&D it's not the same as a court order. Is this issue Really settled law?

    It will cost them a lot of money to pursue this.

    I am not an attorney or even a TV lawyer. I do not give legal advise, this is just a conversation, ride your own horse. :goodnight
     
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    1) 301 redirect to a new domain without the trademarked term in it
    2) Move everything to an offshore host to be safe
    3) Register everything with fake info to be safe (use internet.bs as your registrar)
    4) Pray the company doesn't find you and you maintain your rank

    Keep in mind that if they find you again and your site is hurting their company they can ******** you
     
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    If its a cash cow get a lawyer consultation to see if there is a way to work around the problem spots.