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Casino CPA Offers - they pay BIG....

Discussion in 'CPA' started by kimkils, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. kimkils

    kimkils Power Member

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    So i've come up with a quite ingenious little plan to get gamblers to sign up to new betting sites under my affiliate link. ;)

    However if i get them to sign up and they aren't very good members, and only deposit the minimum amount, will the casino take action? How fussy are they to the quality of the sales we deliver them?

    Anybody had any experience promoting casino affiliate links? I remember a while back eBay was full of "roulette system" ebooks, and i always was curious as to how they made their money selling them for $1, but now i see they had affiliate links in the ebooks and made lots... :p
     
  2. clopper

    clopper Regular Member

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    They take notice, some put you on rev share to start and once you send quality traffic then you can apply for cpa. The ones who put you on cpa right away might pay out but when they don't convert you're on rev share. If you're bhing it it's like a grab and run type thing. In my experience.
     
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  3. conas

    conas Registered Member

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    Yep, before you get paid, you go straight to rev share commission or even banned.
     
  4. AtAllCosts

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    Yup, it's smash and grab all the way!
     
  5. kimkils

    kimkils Power Member

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    Thanks guys for the responses. I think i'll give it a go, just a twist on the "offer them more than the bonus and make it look really official"" type methods that are around. If they sign up they'll be current gamblers anyway and members of other sites so i presume they'd still play there. It's something for me to work on over Christmas anyway :)
     
  6. whghost

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    Dating and gambling are the same dont convert = rev share

    which pisses me !
     
  7. kimkils

    kimkils Power Member

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    Can you explain more, sorry. If i was to send a lead to my affiliate link for a casino site, and they deposited the required $50, then i should get the $200 or so commission, right? When do they put you on rev share? AFTER you get the $200??
     
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    CasinoJack BANNED BANNED

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    Us gambling guys are pretty good. Hard to get past us nowadays
     
  9. AtAllCosts

    AtAllCosts Junior Member

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    Is there still good money to be made doing pushing legitimate traffic to these programs nowadays?

    If so, any hints as to the best way to get started?

    (Nobody say "search the [goddamn] forum") :D
     
  10. clopper

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    KimKills, I know what you're thinking. I've been there. You may see $$$ now but when they hit you with pennies or a ban on payday you'll be crying.
     
  11. russaus

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    casino affiliate programs won't ban you bc you ran a CPA offer through that didn't fulfill....

    fact: if you get a CPA deal, it was a CUSTOM deal. the default is net revenue (revenue share). you 99% of the time have to ask (i.e. beg) for a CPA which is at best a low CPA while they qualify your traffic.

    if the deal you worked out with the casino's affiliate manager doesn't work out they will fall back to a net rev deal. most likely will sign you up a new affiliate account and discount the potential revenues from players referred via the CPA deal.

    from there you can either junk it and take what you made fromt he CPA and move on or work on the net rev deal. there is no bans. if anything, there is egg on the face of the affiliate manager who didn't qualify your traffic for the CPA - it's his ass on the line there with his boss, not yours :)
     
  12. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Hm...no... if your lead deposit only 50$ you are not gonna see the commision. Where do you think the extra 150$ come from? their pocket? Of course the lead has to deposit those money as well as extra for the casino over the course of a longer period before you see your commission...

    Before they pay you. There is a difference between seeing 200$ into your aff account, and getting those money in your bank account. They review your traffic quality.

    AKA if you are planning on sending fake leads you are in the wrong business.
     
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  13. russaus

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    ^ 10% true.

    TLDR - they will qualify you're traffic.

    send shit players that aren't profitable and meeting their expectations and they will change your affiliate plan.

    Of course, anything that qualified to release the CPA after fees and chargebacks should in theory be paid.

    As head of an affiliate department, I always encourage managers to qualify the leads, modify the contracts and send them to the publisher/advertiser for agreement (signature). It's called a 'cover our ass term sheet'.

    Then I go on a player test basis. I usually permt anywhere from 20-50 qualified players through. We run the math on it afterwards for a quick ROI projection. If they suck, we pay the affiliate and change their plan to net rev (as mentioned previously).

    You can choose to walk away. Some affiliate programs have a minimum requirement for cashing out affiliate earnings. For a CPA contract, that might be higher than a default rev share contract and thus you may be required to make the minimum balance before cashing out (even if you move from the failed CPA contract to a net rev contract) - know what you're signing/agreeing to.