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Carbonite vs. Amazon S3 vs. MediaFire Pro (or Similar...)

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ycfme, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. ycfme

    ycfme Power Member

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    So i'm at this point now where I NEED to get smarter and start some regularly scheduled routine cloud backup plan of some kind in addition to my local hardrive backup solution.

    After spending time here on BHW and other forums and seeing post after post of buckets being pillaged using the Amazon S3 ripper, i've become a bit paranoid about the security of Amazon S3.:eek:

    I've been checking Carbonite out and it looks pretty good.(especially be it that it's only $59 a year and has some nice features....) Only thing is it will take forever to backup the amount of data I have according to their website:
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    More importantly, Carbonite only supports Intel Macs. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer version in the near future, (Currently using a Powerbook G4) but don't want to wait to
    2-3 months before I make some kind of cloud back-up. I've been thru the NIGHTMARE of losing data, right when I REALLY needed it.

    I currently have about a TB of data on my drives at home (and at least 2TB's of data counting a handful of dead drives that are laying around...LOL) and this year it will certainly grow by leaps and bounds.

    Anyone have any suggestions/recommendations?


    Thanks!
     
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  2. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    I personally love DropBox. 50GB for $10/mo n2b. :)

    ... After re-reading your post. Your most cost effective option I think would be to buy a few external hard drives.
     
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  3. Jonny Quick

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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153112
     
  4. Autumn

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    Can't comment on the other 2 but I use Amazon S3 for all kinds of stuff and it's pretty sweet from the cost and reliability factors. However they use their own fruity filesystem and app layer so instead of just being able to ftp/sftp/ssh etc to upload your stuff you've got to muck around with other third party solutions. However you can't beat the price. Security is OK as long as you follow the steps to secure your bucket, but like anything in the cloud you need to encrypt everything on your end before you upload if you want to sleep soundly at night.

    My daily back up routine is at the end of the day I plug in my backup drives (2 HDs and 2 USB keys) and they get updated using rsync which is very fast. One of the usb keys is encrypted with Truecrypt and that one goes on my car keyring, so when I leave at night if the house burns down or I get robbed then at least I have my latest backup with all my day's work. If I lose my keys because I get too drunk when I'm out, then the stuff on the usb keyring is encrypted.

    Also during this process, I update a mirror directory of all my work on my main workhorse server using rsync running over ssh. It's fast because rsync only updates the files which have been changed. It means there's another off site backup with the latest changes to my work.

    Once a week I make a huge encrypted tarball of all my work, sites etc and upload it to S3 (because it's cheap) and my main workhorse dedi server. The reason I only do it once per week is that it takes ages to build and encrypt everything and it's a large upload too. I'm just not happy about storing all my stuff in the cloud unencrypted.
     
  5. rowebil

    rowebil Regular Member

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    Wow, very nice routine!

    Theirs no way your data could get lost..

    Only if you really try.
     
  6. flaw3d

    flaw3d Regular Member

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    Try backblaze for a price they will send you a external hard drive shipping included both ways. You can then backup your computer and stuff. Then just send it back and you saved yourself alot of time and headache.
     
  7. Jonny Quick

    Jonny Quick BANNED BANNED

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    Unless I've missed something, this sounds really, really dumb. You ship a hard drive back and forth once a week?
     
  8. saxgod

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    I would get a dedicated server with loads of storage, much cheaper then cloud based, and keep a local copy on USB.
    Then you have 2 backups and should be pretty safe.
     
  9. flaw3d

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    Not once a week, just the initial first time since it's alot of stuff to upload.

    It's better to have it done in a few hours locally then having to take days to upload everything. Plus they can send you a HD with your latest backup so when you need to restore you don't use DVD's or web downloads which can take forever.
     
  10. Autumn

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    If you use rsync to update your stuff online then you're only uploading the stuff that has changed so it's not a huge upload each time. You only have a big upload the first time you backup your stuff.

    I've gotta say that I don't really see the point in shipping hard drives either, you may as well buy two, store one off site (friend / parent's house, work place, safe deposit box etc) and then just swap them once a week when you do your backup. Unless you're encrypting the drives, I would trust an anonymous third party business less than I would trust a friend.
     
  11. ycfme

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    Just got this email from Amazon this morning:
    I may try this out...
     
  12. Dan Free

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    Couple of things,

    Hurricane Katrina, forest fires, floods, tornados show that you really need a back-up in another state or region because you don't know what is going to happen.

    I was considering Carbonite until I read that they will only back-up internal hard drives, no USB attached devices. for the $59/year fee. I was considering getting a Network Attached Storage (NAS) for my family's 3 laptops and 2 desktops. Back everything up to the NAS and then back-up the NAS off site. But it does not sound like this would fly for $59/year.