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Can't Get Accepted? READ THIS!

Discussion in 'CPA' started by Pofecker, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    OK, I've had a dozen or so people contact me with questions about how they can get accepted into a cpa network. I have a solution and it should work for everyone.

    YOU DON'T NEED A WEBSITE!

    All to often people are rejected because their website isn't up to par or they just don't have the money to start one. This leaves a lot of people out of the game and that really isn't fair.

    I've decided to make this tutorial for people that are having a hard time and could do well for the networks/advertisers if given the chance.

    Here's your answer, EMAIL MARKETING!!!

    I'm a email marketer myself and have been accepted into two dozen or so networks with no website, no proof of anything and have never been rejected.

    This is what you do...

    (1) Apply to a network

    (2) Within the comment section of the application (each network has one) write something like this...

    "I'm a email marketer with close to 10,000 geo-targeted, double opt-in email's. I send a weekly/daily newsletter to my members and include serveral offers with it".

    (3) Sometimes the application requires you to fill in a website. If this is the case, use either a free domain (free blog) or just type http://email.com. This tells the person reviewing the application your a email marketer.

    (4) Talk to your account manager! If you can't find a contact phone number on the network's website, CALL YOUR AM! If not, your going to have to wait till they call you.

    (5) Discussion with your account manager...

    YOU: Hi, I'm John Smith. I'm a email marketer with 6 months of experience. I've got close to 10,000 geo-targeted, double opt-in email's.

    AM: May I ask how you got those email addresses?

    YOU: I run several membership websites that offer free ebooks and daily newsletters for my members. The members have double opted for my emails and I include offers with my newsletters. (Note: Your membership sites can be about anything, debt, freebies, tech news, whatever)

    AM: Wow, that's great. Can I see one of your websites?

    YOU: Sorry, I'd show you, but I've had too many of my sites stolen in the past.

    AM: That's OK, I understand. Can I ask you how you go about sending your emails, what service do you use? And do you apply a suppression list?

    YOU: I use Aweber to send my emails, each email includes a opt-out on the bottom of every email I send. Yes, I apply the suppression list for every network.

    AM: OK, how many people opt-out of your email each month?

    YOU: I'd say about 2%.

    AM: This sounds great, what type of offers do you promote?

    * At this point the AM has already accepted you and is now moving on to general questions that will better help him/her choose offers that might suit you etc. You need to tell the AM exactly what you want to promote and he/she will get you started.

    I know your probably asking yourself, but I don't do emails. Well, that's ok. Think about it this way, you've been accepted into a network. At this point you can use a website, emails, whatever. I'd suggest using a double meta refresh for all your offers, but you should be doing that anyway right?

    The truth is, once your accepted, you can do whatever you want within the guidelines of the network's TOS.

    You are now one of thousands of publishers on a network. If you decide at a later point to use a website to promote offers, WHATEVER, go ahead and do it. YouTube, Social 'marketing', HAVE AT IT!

    I hope this helps the people that are having a tough time getting into a network.

    * The information provided should be altered in order to keep your application unique.
     
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  2. billu512

    billu512 Power Member

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    Thanks I Will Try This Method. :D
     
  3. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    This should work for anyone that is within the geographic boundaries of the affiliate network they are applying with.
     
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  4. Sanitarium

    Sanitarium Regular Member

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    And please people, don't go typing everything you see here word for word. You all don't need to copy and paste to them "I've got close to 10,000 geo-targeted" or anything else posted above. Keep it unique.
     
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  5. dinz

    dinz Junior Member

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    Thanks. But what do we fill in for the website detail when we sign up?
     
  6. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    (3) Sometimes the application requires you to fill in a website. If this is the case, use either a free domain (free blog) or just type http://email.com. This tells the person reviewing the application your a email marketer.

    As for details, leave it blank or simply put 'email marketer'
     
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    Ok. This is really nice review. :) Maybe now I'll start to do something.
     
  8. tankall

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    nice


    i will try it


    tks
     
  9. crizk

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    Eh, this is a good idea... but the part about "Ill show you, but Ive had too many of my websites stolen, sorry"--I would think the AM would be thinking:

    - Does this guy really think Im going to jack his website?
    - This guy is a spammer and doesnt have a website.
    - This guy can go fuck himself.

    They never persist? Are there any other potential responses to this question? You're probably great in your delivery, so it works for you, buy I could see someone who isnt much of a smooth talker falling flat on their face with this response.

    Great post, thanks given!
     
  10. Bill Gates

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    It's a solution but not for evryone and their dog.

    It CAN work because after being rejected a number of times I also used a similar approach and it worked.

    Depends on you, your ability to sell yourself and how willing you are to work at it.

    There's no "one-size-fits-all" solution in this game.
     
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    crizk BANNED BANNED

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    Touche... I was just trying to think of a couple other potential responses to that question that might work. I am definitely going to put this method into action and see what happens.
     
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    cskgsquad Registered Member

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    I've always wondered and searched how to get accepted without a good website to show, thanks for the great info.
     
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    The question is will it work for ebay?

    I have just been rejected so want to think carefully before recontacting them.

    Many thanks - great post

    :D
     
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    Thanks a lot. I have been rejrcted by CPA networks before because I never know what to tell thme. This should help out a lot. I am going to apply to a few now. Thanks added!
     
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    @ stevedata
    It is real easy to set up an epn blog, or any blog for that matter for epn application.
    I used to sell websites on ebay with epn on them and all my customers got approved by epn no roblem. They all used the sites they bought from me as their websites, and these are simple wordpress based sites
     
  16. SERPHunter

    SERPHunter Newbie

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    Bad advice!

    This can easily backfire on you, if you're not experienced with mailing whatsover and you get some specific questions on mailing and you're responding with ...uhmm...stutter, etc - then it's very obvious you're lying to them.

    So this method won't get my vote, in fact i would recommend newbies against doing this. It's just asking for trouble.

    If you are forced to lie to get a foot in the door anywhere then remember the first rule of lying 101 - Don't try to make things too complicated...
     
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    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    I respectfully disagree.

    Email marketing isn't rocket science and AM's have fairly limited questions.

    If you really wanted to, you could say that you work with other partners and they do the actual mailings. This excludes you from having to give any detailed explanations. If the AM asks why, simply tell them that you finance part of the 'operation' and the partners have different responsibilities.

    If you are forced to lie to get a foot in the door, get your story straight first :p
     
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    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    If you can't get approved because the AM has to see your landing page, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. I'd hate to say it, but a lot of them will steal your shit in a heartbeat. I'd had this happen with two networks before I started telling AM's "no, you can't see my shit" and completely blanking my referrer.

    AM's know the score and know if they ask for your work and you say "no, sorry, too much of my stuff has been stolen" they will understand. If they don't and persist, take your business somewhere else. I'm certainly not in business to share my money. Are you?
     
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  19. SERPHunter

    SERPHunter Newbie

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    Your making things unnecessary complicated for yourself fronting a story like that no matter how you cut it.

    Point is, the more complicated your story is, the more holes i can punch in it.
    I've personally haven't experienced any AM's asking further and further, but then again i never tried to make up a poor cover story like this.

    It's really unnecessary to do so.
    If you're intentions are to drive traffic and make money and not flat out ripping off networks you don't need to play these type of silly games.

    I never once had to try to make myself a bigger player then i am and things went just fine for me.

    Thats the problem with overly confident liars, they make it too complicated and think they can get their story straight at the same time.

    The same type of people that get fucked in the "interview" room when being arrested arrested for something and try to get their story straight.
     
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    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    I'm telling people that applying as an 'email marketer' can get you approved without having a spot of actual proof. No website, no nothing. It doesn't have to be a complicated story, the above is only an example.

    Email marketing is easy to explain. Where do you get the emails? How do you send them? Are they opt-in? How many do you have? None of these questions are very hard to makeup, even on the fly for most people.

    BTW, it sounds as if your an account manager yourself ...

    "Point is, the more complicated your story is, the more holes i can punch in it."

    :)
     
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