Can you use fresh domains for PBN's?

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  1. Frap

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    Can you use fresh domains for PBN's?

    For my niche, there arent many domain names that are expired or have any sort of DA or backlin structure.

    So will buying registering a brand new domain name be okay still?
     
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    It is not mandatory to use old domain as PBN. Basically Old domain are used for passing better link juices.
     
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    You lose the benefit of already having juice, you'll have to build backlinks to this domain in order to that domain to gain authority, but that's backlinks that you could have done directly to your main site ...
     
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    As the guys above have said, you'll basically be starting from fresh where an expired, clean domain in the same niche will give you the head start.
     
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    In addition to above, you can promote your PBN (fresh domains) to gain authority gradually.
     
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    Just like @Parker2010 Said ! Promoting to gain authority would cost you much more money in a long run - Which doesn’t make sense to me.

    The beauty if PBN is to be cost effective
     
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    No you can't.

    It's like getting drunk out of non alcoholic beer. It makes absolutely no sense.

    It's not cost effective, it's not time effective and it won't provide any considerable boost.
     
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    It takes time to see results if you use new sites. Instead of promoting your PBN why can't you promote your money site's with quality links like guest postings.
     
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    dont do that. maybe for hacks niche, where domains get banned one by one
     
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    If you build PBN from fresh domain then you have to build backlinks along with which is time consuming process. You should rather focus on expired domains having quality backlinks already and build Your PBNs on expired domains Only.
     
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    It's possible but doesn't make sense. The purpose of PBN is to get aged authority domains and use them for good backlinks. With fresh domains you need to wait them age and you need to build them backlinks (authority, trust..) and all of it will take so much time and money that it just doesn't make sense...
     
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    Plus, my main argument in this regard is - If the links you will be building to those fresh PBNs are good enough to boost a domain, why not building them to your money site? All in all, it's a ridiculous idea. Some fresh domains thrown into your PBN mix are fine, but wasting literally the same money on fresh domain, when you can get something at least somehow decent for $10-$30 a piece makes no sense.
     
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    I don't think if it's going to work.
     
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    If you don't get domains in your niche, still you can buy other niche domain and post themed articles. example, your niche is "car" and you got domain related to "health". Create article saying, how to drive the car without getting back pain. Got my point?
     
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    Yes you can but the advantage of going with expired domains is that they have the benefit of age and established links so juicing your site right away.