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Can You Transfer a Domain Without Losing Page Rank?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by teeniegenie, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. teeniegenie

    teeniegenie Supreme Member

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    I have an offer from an individual to purchase a nice PR 5 domain. This isn't a dropped domain. My concern is that if I switch the domain to a new registrar with a new owner I will lose the PR. My thought is to keep the ownership under my registrar anonymous, hoping that it will limit the chances that I lose PR.

    Can anyone supply me with tips/information on how to maximize my changes of keeping the PR on the site after I purchase it?

    Feel free to PM me if you'd rather reply that way.
     
  2. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    I highly recommend that if you transfer then it will be to the same hosting site.

    Example:

    From namecheap to namecheap, or godaddy to godaddy, etc.

    This way it would still most likely be on the same IP, only the owner would change.
     
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  3. teeniegenie

    teeniegenie Supreme Member

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    Bobby: thanks and +2 rep for the answer.

    One follow up question: do you think it will matter if I make the ownership of the domain anonymous (especially if the former owner did not keep it anonymous)?
     
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    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    No, there is no need to make it anonymous unless there is blackhat or sketchy activities being done.

    If the new owner wants to make it anonymous, then they can pay (sometimes it is free) for a hide whois.
     
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  5. SuperLinks

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    As long as the content is similar, or hasn't changed at all and there isn't a tremendous amount of downtime you shouldn't have a problem. I've bought and sold hundreds of websites in my day and only had a loss on PageRank on a few (mostly my fault).

    Bobby's advice is also spot on to take extra precaution, sometimes you can even snag a spot on the same server (IP) if it was shared hosting, just contact the hosting company.

    Best recommendation but even more far fetched. Try and take over the hosting account with the domain acquisition, always an easy way to be absolutely certain if you are at all worried or are purchasing a high priced domain.
     
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  6. teeniegenie

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    Thanks and +2 rep for the info! SuperLinks, I'd be curious to hear more about the few times you lost PR - what did you do wrong?
     
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    Site was actually a previously dropped domain but somehow was indexed and cached. I had checked way back machine, and other tools, like domaintools for info and didn't see anything out of the norm.

    Other times the time between getting the domain hosted again and transferred from registrars took several weeks. Due to the seller and me being out of the country. After getting the site up and running I never ended up getting the original content. Basically everything that could go wrong, did.
     
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  8. mordred

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    I recommend adding privacy. I've bought quite a few high PR domains, and changed hosting as well as content but never lost PR.

    I do however keep the content in the same theme, and the domain under the same registrar.

    The main issue however is will the backlinks the domain currently have remain? Make sure you check the backllink portfolio before you buy (via SEO SpyGlass or something similar).
     
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    Mordred is right, be very certain of the backlinks before you buy. I'm a huge Flippa guy and have seen just about every scam in the book at this point. Scammers love buying Fake PR domains, getting them indexed and content on them and then building out manual blog comments on high PR pages.

    That way when you look at the PageRank it shows a cache of the new homepage, shows indexed pages, and the backlinks look legit until you investigate further. Basically its only a matter of time till the PR gets lost on that domain.
     
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    teeniegenie Supreme Member

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    Thanks. I don't have SEO Spyglass, but I figure Market Samurai will do...

    I'm not sure I totally understand what to watch for with the backlinks. Are you just saying to closely check the type of links pointing to the site? Other?
     
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    SEO SpyGlass is free up to 1,000 backlinks - it will show you if links are nofollow or not, their PR etc. so I highly recommend using it as well.

    I only check the backlinks with high PR and I try to see if the backlinks are likely to stick or not. For example if my site has a PR4 backlink from a 2009 page in the archives, there's not much chance of the owner going back and changing it.
     
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    I have had a few problems buying domains with high pr. Make sure you ask them how many of the high pr links will stick if he is linking to it from some of his other sites. I once bought a domain with quite a few high pr domains and as soon as i paid for it he took those backlinks off his sites and i lost 3 spots in PR.
     
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    yes,i think so. then google wont change your PR!:D
     
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    Don't change the registrar, add privacy as soon as possible so that google can't see ownership has been changed.

    That's what I do when I buy high pr domains at auctions, and I also add content straight away and build some good quality links.

    This all seems to help keep the pagerank