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Can you say a word too much on a website?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by JuggernautJukey, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. JuggernautJukey

    JuggernautJukey BANNED BANNED

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    Hi,

    I am building a site in the pet niche, and I was just wondering;

    I have over 100 keywords for Cats, but every single keyword has the word cat (or cats) in it! Does it matter?

    I know you can have too many keywords on a page, but will I be penalized for having the word cats written thousands of times on my site?

    Also, will I be penalized if most of my articles follow the same style (e.g. How to xxxx, How to xxxxx, How to xxxxxx OR Why do xxx Why do xxx etc etc)

    Sounds like a stupid question, so if it is, I apologize! It's just better to be safe than sorry :)

    EDIT** I don't mean per page, I mean for the entire site. Say the 'correct' amount of times to say 'cat' in an article is 5, will I be penalized if I say it just 5 times per post, but on every post? I mean the density of the word on the entire site, not just the 1 page/post
     
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  2. fxphil

    fxphil Senior Member

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    Yes, you will be penalized.

    What you should do is read through the forum a bit more.

    What you can do is categorize your site and use LSI articles. ALso do you best to use similar words

    Cat
    Feline
    Pussy <-- Seriously
    Kitten
    Mouse hunter
    Pussycat
    Kit
    Moggie


    ETC
     
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  3. 0_00_0

    0_00_0 Senior Member

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    You can and will be penalized for repeating a word or phrase too many times. It also reads very awkwardly for your visitors! Think of another way of saying it like fxphil mentioned.
     
  4. brooktroutballer

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    Probably, I have been penalized for a similar word. I actually went through and was changing (the name of animal) to things like "previously mentioned species" or using their latin name. It sucks, but I would try to cut down the frequency of each usage.
     
  5. Biznik

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    I run a website which has the same few words used in every page. Does it rank? Hell yes.

    Changing from "How to train your cat" to "How to train your mouse hunter" just makes the website unreadable, confusing, and spam-like.
     
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  6. fxphil

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    it was an example off the top of my head LOL


    However it's all in context and perception. Context creates the perception an Example vs yours..

    Your way of using terms "How to train your mouse hunter"

    vs

    A passing way to use the same term "My friendly little mouse hunter is the best pet a kid could have but he does chase our dog around the house but at the end of the day he ends up on his little cat bed"


    Yes, it is fishy looking but would still pass inspection due to it's uniqueness and how much of a personal statement it is. SEO works in many ways and this would pass automated and manual inspection. When writing a blog the illusion of personal touch must be given. So many people are different that google has no choice but to grade on a curve. I can honestly tell you the bar is set pretty low. (but is also niche base) so you can figure it out on your own but I have been doing this a very long time and do my best at only providing positive contributions.
     
  7. davids355

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    Yes you can. I would say to read through, and if there's an unnatural amount of cats, you've over used the word!

    As fxphil said, find a tool to get synonyms and use lots of different words related to cats, and try and make it look as natural as possible.
     
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    Would the same happen if, say, the website's name or brand was mentioned too often?
     
  9. seocrab

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    How often is too often? If it's a very unique brand name then you can probably get away with more repetitions than if the name also has a keyword in it.

    As a general rule: variation variation variation.
     
  10. Duffers5000

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    Its hard to dilute a keyword when its something as specific as cats...But you just have to try your best. Answers above give you good ideas....reach out for synonyms where you can but obviously not at the expense of readability.

    Make sure you on page seo is not targeted to cats. Turn off Breadcrumbs and be careful with with h1 h2 tags etc. Try and use non cat alt tags for pictures. Obviously if you are getting some linking done be extra careful on spreading out anchor text.

    Try and dilute your keyword by having a blog on the site where you review semi or non related cat items that gives you an excuse to get more content on to the site with using the C word.
     
  11. fxphil

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    Brands are treated differently then generic dictionary terms. Brands show possessive ownership thus complete control over a word. (sorta of speak)

    You could literally use your brand as much as you want however you will still need to enforce your brand with your product.

     
  12. seosky

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    Just Make sure Each Article is not similar to each other, and use cat, kitten, Pussycat, variations of Word to make it Look Professional.
     
  13. Srikaanth

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    Like seosky said, use variations like black pussy, small pussy, pink pussy, wet pussy, my pussy etc. Then you won't get banned.
    You might get some irrelevant traffic, so capitalize on that too.
     
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  14. 1337Indian

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    LOL. Give that man a medal.
     
  15. lancis

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    Google is a weirdo, just like its employees. I was ranking for "dog food" with a page that dealt with SEO. Dog food was served as an example there, and was mentioned may be 20-25 times.

    Lesson learned: keyword stuffing is good for SEO
     
  16. MegaSEO

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    I would not worry to much about it. As long as your articles sound natural and you diversify your long tail keywords you
    should come out in decent shape. Diversify some just to be on the safe side.

    MegaSEO