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Can you rank without keyword phrases in your site's content?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Kyle787, Sep 5, 2011.

  1. Kyle787

    Kyle787 Junior Member

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    Some who knows I know a little about SEO wanted to hire me to rank his site for an odd keyword. The phrase was "doors ny" for a door company in new york. Obviously I can't put "doors ny" in text so what do I could I do if I am trying to rank without having the phrase in the content, URL, and site title?

    I know it is a pretty competitive keyword but I have ranked before in similar situations. Only I had the keyword in the domain then. This time he won't have the keyword in his domain and nor will his competitors.
     
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    technically, yes, however in my personal experience it is hard

    google the term "click here" (with or without ") - two of the top results - adobe reader and quick time - are ranked there only because of all the "click here to download" backlinks pointing to them - there is no "click here" on the page text from what I can see.
     
  3. no4ck

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    I would do a hidden DIV at the bottom of the page and do some strong SEO copy.

    Come up with words and phrases using stuff like doors ny... I'm sure if you did some all around keyword work, the results would be much better.

    "We Provide the best doors NY has seen..." would be a sentence but I'd do some strong SEO work within a hidden div... just come up with the keywords you can rank

    Bedroom Doors in NY
    Garage Doors in NY
    Screen Doors in NY
    Side Doors in NY
    Glass Doors in NY
    Security Doors in NY
    etc... you get the drift.

    Make a H1 title with the keyword in it. Then start off a paragraph with the keyword exactly in the first sentence... then write another valuable sentence... then close it up with the same keywords/different variation in another sentence.

    Then do this for all the different longer tailed keywords. Hide it in a div and Google will still read it.

    For example... goto hxxp://biltmorehotel.c0m/ and scroll all the way to the bottom and click "click here for further reference" and see what I mean.

    Imagine doing that for each page of the site. It's a bitch to write... but it works.
     
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    Its easy. You can rank without having having the keywords anywhere on the site. Just build backlinks.

    In your case you can include ny somewhere (footer?), that should help. Then just build the links
     
  5. no4ck

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    Also... if you goto BiltmoreHotel's website... and click on the "Click Here for MOre Reference" at the bottom...

    Copy and paste some of those Bolded titles into Google and notice where biltmore is for those titles... I just did about 7 of them and Biltmore was in the top 3 if not the first for most.
     
  6. Kyle787

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    Thanks, it's a Wordpress site though. Can it still be optimized with hidden DIV tags?
     
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    Yeah.. there are ways to do it. Just search for "hidden div" in G... You'll find something that will work.
     
  8. Kyle787

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    Gotcha, he has told me he only needs this one keyword ranked though. Would it still be worth it for this one phrase to content spam the crap out of it in the DIV? Or could I get away with putting like one paragraph in the DIV like you mentioned and then adding some regular meta tags to the site?