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Can you outrank news website on firstpage?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by beingink, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. beingink

    beingink Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    The niche I am in, it is filled with news website on the first page.. Can you outrank them? If so how? The normal rules apply?
     
  2. FuryKyle

    FuryKyle Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    If it's CNN, BBC or authority sites like that it'll be hard but can still be done. Conventional spam won't do it though, you're probably going to need high PR homepage links or something similar.
     
  3. PaperToy

    PaperToy Regular Member

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    Yes, you can outrank them because the news articles come and go; however, if it is the same websites with new relevant content each day, it may not be possible.
     
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    Those are easy to outrank since those pages hardly have any backlinks, they just rank because of root domain authority.
     
  5. kazhkaz

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    Are the articles that rank always the same or they change all the time?
     
  6. TheUnborn

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    You cannot outrank them as They are authority sites in the eyes of google but you can outrank other sites ranking on these keywords with the method given here by some members.
     
  7. tony_d

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    I have, in the last few weeks, outranked BBC, Dailymail.co.uk, telegraph.co.uk, theguardian.com, and a wikihow page with very little effort indeed...
    My site is a brand new site, on a brand new domain. Some SAPE links and a few 2.0's, and nothing else.
     
  8. Gyuman82

    Gyuman82 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Yes you can outrank these. Like someone else said these type of sites are usually just there based on authority.

    If you have a well optimized site and do a little backlinking you can topple them if the link profile to the specific page isn't that strong.
     
  9. bullsbears

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    Yes you can. If you see these news sites coming up on first page you know you got the right keyword. Do some basic SEO & you would see the result.
     
  10. DaleHarries

    DaleHarries Newbie

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    Really???

    News sites popping up just mean the term is newsworthy.

    Newsworthy != Money Making

    As for ranking, sure you can but it's going to take a decent amount of link power to make it work.
     
  11. PaperToy

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    For example, if it's a news article that is just relevant for that keyword temporarily, then you can easily outrank it. Example, if you own CrazyMiley.com and there's a few news articles about her recently on the news, they will not last long before your relevant domain takes the ranking.
     
  12. SERPTraffic

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    Look, I have this one month old blog website. I copy-scrape the same news article from different websites, change the title little bit and spin the content. I get my news article on top 1-3. :D
     
  13. DamageX

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    Short answer: you can outrank ANYTHING.

    Long answer: I'm too lazy to type that much text right now. :D
     
  14. SteveWaller

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    IF the news site is ranking purely on its authority then it should be fairly manageable but if that article page has managed to attract a number of backlinks itself then it takes a whole new level of effort to overtake them. Unfortunately I often see news articles with 100+ backlinks from other authority sites simply because they are referenced quite a lot by others.
     
  15. spatbaylad

    spatbaylad Newbie

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    It would surely depend upon the domain authority and the page authority of the ranking page. If you find a new site doing well in serps for your keywords, why not look into using that to your advantage and use it as one of your parasite pages?