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Can you get your competitors sandboxed?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by CountStacula, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. CountStacula

    CountStacula BANNED BANNED

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    I always read about people getting sandboxed for adding too many backlinks, so I was just thinking, what if you just added thousands of backlinks to a competitors website and got them sandboxed? Is this possible?
     
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    If it is possible, or if it isnt, that is not the real Ethics you should have! You should try ranking higher rather than bringing others down! :)

    Think of a day, your competitors calculates the same thing on your site!

    ~ExP~
     
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    Hey man, I'm just trying to make the most money possible. It was just a hypothetical question though.
     
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    @CountStacula - You also need to remember that the main method of doing it would be to over promote their website. That might get them sandboxed, but could just as easily secure them a top position in the SERPs. If it backfires then your site could be the one left in the dust.
     
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    If it's a new site you can pretty much guarantee sandboxing with the duplicate content method.
     
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    this has been answered and beaten like a dead horse.

    NO. If this was possible, the web would be a mess. you could simply blast 1 million links with "viagra" in the anchor text pointing to your competitors site.

    The worst that can happen is that Google will not index a link or give it a lower value. AND, you have to actually screw yourself to get sandboxed or banned, and that is very rare. Most people confuse the Google Dance with deindexing and sandboxed cause they don't know what they are doing.
     
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    nah it is possible for new sites, trust me. there's some nifty methods for old sites out there too but they're really blackhat. don't think Google is some type of magical flawless system; it has many errors and issues and those problems are the root cause why SEO still works today.
     
  8. Bross

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    Possible +

    A competitor generated over 10,000 backlinks to my site (Webmaster toolz) within a month. Don't know how - Wish I did.
    All ranking keywords were lost. I can only find it when I use my domain name in quotes.
    Can't whine to google because they don't care and frankly... What goes around comes around.
     
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    False. Saw it in action. It may not last for long - Time will tell. But you can definitely get medium competitors punished.
    Not relating to websites that are in Google news. Obviously.

    The average successful webmaster has 1 keyword at the top and a few others dancing around - This is more than doable at least short term.

    Don't give false advice based on your "logic" assumptions. Advice should be based on experience.
    Logic also means that DECORMYEYES.COM will not be in first page for just about everything? Right? Scam.. So why is it still there after it was featured by the NY times and was related to by Google? I guess you know that there is no simple "logic" in SEO.

    Nowadays, you probably know that none of the money making scams from clickbank, AKA "Michael Jones new moneymaking system" work.
    NONE, ZERO, ZIP. But how can you tell? based on the general public assumptions and logic? IF that was the case we were all digital frauduct addicts because the "public" feeds us daily that it works.

    You know that it is all one big BS because you experienced, not because it was talked about over and over and the "most" said it will make you millions.

    Guess what.. some people find it "logical" that they can make millions online without SEO, PPC, website, experience and fingers... Go figure.


     
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    First lets assume its ranked on a competitive keyword,
    So its unlikely to be a new site, run by an amateur, and if its an old site
    well you are probably just going to make it stronger by building backlinks to it.

    And if its a new site ,Its more than likely owned by a blackhatter ,and he will only build even more links to it, while it is sandboxed, and he will more than likely know how to
    escape the sandbox.

    Perhaps instead of trying to think of ways to put your competitor down , spend more effort on beating him.
    Y
     
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    Haven't seen this one before :pcguru:
     
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    Yeah, you don't want to go down this road. If you get busted for it, there are serious legal issues behind it, as dafamation and depervation of trade are serious offenses and the FTC recognizes damaging someone's website business or personal reputation as grounds for a legitimate claim.

    Play it straight and work on your own site getting to the top and don't pull that kneecapping stuff to bring someone else down.

    Karma comes in all forms and justice come in tow only in one, the hammer that smashes everything you've got.

    That isn't skipping a rock on the pond from the bank, that is dropping a boulder in it from a chopper a quater mile up.
     
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    Ah you're never going to get caught if you do it right. It still just doesn't make sense to do this in any situation though. At best you might move up one spot only to have a competitor come back harder after disappearing for a while. One spot, big deal.
     
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    That's low, man! Are you really going to try it? Or just curious?
     
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    ... you gotta be kidding me.