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Can we talk about Crash and Burn domains/sites?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by HerpDerpSlerp, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. HerpDerpSlerp

    HerpDerpSlerp Power Member

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    I have a very good contact on Skype I found from here and they help me with SEO and all kinds of cool white hat stuff but yesterday we started talking about some black hat methods and they mentioned something called "Crash and Burn" for url's and using 301 to push link juice to money site using a redirect/different host/different registar so google does not see the connection. Rinse and repeat.

    This got me thinking about using crash and burn sites to make a quick dollar in a new niche or new site. Does this work? I already own GSA. I can easily get shared proxies around and I was thinking on buying Xrumer instead of paying for blasts. is Xrumer worth it? I would rather buy it if it is and even give out some free blasts here in return for some insite on this matter

    What would you use for a revenue source. Affiliates? would you need to cloak the referer?

    I was always into whitehat but after reading and doing research blackhat/greyhat/fuckg00glehat seems the fastest solution for a quick buck as I have the resources. I do want to try it.

    Thoughts?
    Thanks
     
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  2. netmoney1

    netmoney1 Executive VIP

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    Give it a try. Nothing to lose really except for some time. Look at what was going on in the payday loan niche. Crazy profitable and those sites were just churn and burn. It's been going on forever and probably won't stop.
     
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  3. HerpDerpSlerp

    HerpDerpSlerp Power Member

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    Thanks for the niche idea. +rep for that. pretty competitive I assume. What about Xrumer? it is 650$USD+10$ per month. Anyone use it? Does it still work after the google updates? How much should I blast? I am assuming it is better to purchase an aged domain instead of using a fresh one. How long does ranking usually last?

    edit: what is the best affiliate to use? I just googled it and found moneymart. Maybe that is a good start. I could split test this on numerous domains.
     
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    frankly speaking, you dont need xrumer for that. GSA is more than enough. Focus on building your GSA list and have multiple VPS's if you want to focus on certain projects and yes its pretty cheap
     
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  5. netmoney1

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    I was just giving an example. I wouldn't start with the payday loan niche...the guys that are on top of that have been doing it for a long time. Maybe find a lower competition niche and test...see what works for you and then build up to the big money makers. Good luck!
     
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    Hey netmoney1,

    Do you think domain relevancy is a factor?

    HerpDerp; did you get my PM?
     
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    Honestly, we have never tried on a domain that wasn't relevant. I would be interested in hearing if anyone has made it work on a domain that has absolutely nothing in common with the site being ranked.
     
  8. HerpDerpSlerp

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    interesting concept. I might try that. I think initial plans are just to see how a site ranks. get a few aged domains on a mid competition niche and some spread out shared accounts and experiment with GSA full tilt, GSA conservative and blasting with Xrumer (I think I will buy it just to have it) vs non blasting.

    will be a fun project.
     
  9. netmoney1

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    Yeah sometimes when you have no pressure and no expectations you can uncover some interesting stuff. Just run with it and see what you discover and accomplish. Good luck with it! Blast away! :D
     
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    not really working anymore after thsiu penguin but try :)
     
  11. Untouchable

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    It working and working well infact. You just have to twist it the right way ;)
    Source: Doing it all the time :)
     
  12. pankun

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    Yep, let's talk about things like that in a public forum. Good luck with it.
     
  13. ibmethatswhoib

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    Spam is ranking, I found Xrumer blasts just blast the sites out of the serps and isn't working well. But that's just me, only way to tell is to test. You'll hear a thousand different answers, just setup a test site and go for it. Try different ways of spamming and you might find yourself a nice formula.
     
  14. Ungodly

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    Why not just use Xrumer to blast your tier 2-3's? I'll probably get it here soon, but that's all I plan to do with it.
     
  15. Lalalaenhund

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    I've done it with the weirdest domains, doesn't seem to matter at all.