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Can-Spam Bulk Emailing - Private ESP for up to 400K/day

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  1. Exxtra

    Exxtra Junior Member

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    I'm going to try to keep this as clear-cut as possible. My company provides private ESP (email service provider) services to clients who mail to CAN-SPAM compliant lists. The max daily sending volume is up to 400K (after you have established rep with us). We typically start off new clients with a limit of 150K per day to build up a profile, however after two mailings have been completed we'll allow a client as much volume as is required, up to 400K/day.

    Minimum:
    You can mail as much or as little as possible, but as a minimum you should be doing 50K per drop to use this service.

    Maximums:
    At this time we do not accept send orders over 400K/day for a single client.

    Ideal Client:
    Most of the clients we work with are earning at least 5 times what they spend to have us mail their lists and have a solid understanding of what works and what doesn't. This is not the ideal service for noobs; this is a service for someone who knows what needs to be sent and just wants it sent without hassles.

    How We Send:
    My company uses distributed network of dedicated servers managed with custom mailing software. Each server has an average send rate of 1 million per hour, with peaks of 3 million per hour. We are CAN SPAM compliant mailers which means that our clients must adhere to the applicable laws in order to utilize our services.

    Our Service vs Other ESP Choices:
    You can use a service like Mailchimp or Streamsend, however despite what they state on their website, you will quickly find that lists over 25K are heavily scrutinized. You cannot just import 1mm emails and blast away; they will not let you do that because they are primarily designed for CRM/newsletters and not straight up opt-in marketing. I've heard stories of people getting charged thousands of dollars only to be banned for spamming.

    Pricing:
    Basic mailing starts at $1.00 CPM for plain text messages with a 50K minimum per order. You can choose from add-on options below to improve the response rate of your mailings. Data inserts to personalize messages tend to improve response rates by over 50% in our experiences.

    *** Add-on Options ***
    Data Inserts (e.g. Dear <first name>) +$0.20 CPM
    HTML Email +$0.05 CPM
    HTML Image Hosting +$0.10 CPM
    Custom Headers +0.05 CPM / header

    Accepted Payment Methods:
    Visa/MC/Amex/Discover, Wire Transfer, Cashiers Check

    Policies:
    We require a deposit of 50% up front. This is based on your CPM rate and proposed list size. After the drop completes and your messages have all been sent, you will be invoiced for the remaining balance.

    The remaining balance is calculated like this:

    ((Total Sent - Confirmed Bounces) / 1000) * CPM = Balance Due

    You do not pay for confirmed bounces, typically 5xx messages. The percentage of hard bounces varies with the quality of the list, but is typically around 1% for a good, clean list.

    You must be 18 or older and able to enter into a legally binding contract as well.

    List Requirements:
    The list you provide must contain the following data fields at a minimum: Email Address, IP Address, Timestamp. You should also take steps to ensure your list is clean prior to submitting it to us - we are not in the list scrubbing business, although we will validate your list against our master suppression file.

    Refunds:
    Under no circumstances will there be any refunds for mail that has already been sent. If your list generates an excecssive amount of spam complaints we reserve the right to discontinue service and will refund you the balance of your deposit if there is any for all unsent messages.
     
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    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    OP is giving out free reviews.
     
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    khin007 Newbie

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    May i get a review?
     
  4. blanc

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    Review PLz :)
     
  5. Trueblood

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    to complicated for what its worth.
     
  6. Trueblood

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    What inbox percentage do you project? Also how do we ensure that after we are done mailing you don't steal our lists? For noobs can you clarify the actual price per 1,000 emails sent? In the "contract" that we have to sign does it specifically say we can get a refund? Why can't we pay via paypal so we have some insurance you won't stiff us?
     
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    I've got 13 mil opt-ins to mail out. I would love a review copy first.
     
  8. Exxtra

    Exxtra Junior Member

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    Reviews are only available to members of BHW that are established on here. If you fall into this category, please PM me.

    There are 3 reviews available and they are limited to 10K blasts.

    If you find it too complicated than it's not for you.

    Good questions...

    I make no claims or guarantees as to the inbox rate. There is no way to measure this metric and people claiming numbers are in fact making them up. With a good list and creative/template you will get a decent response. As I mentioned in the original post, we typically see a bounce rate around 1-2% with good lists so you can estimate that the remaining 98-99%.

    The contract is between you (or your company) and my company, and is really just a written record of what you are paying for and what we are providing you. It's only a couple pages, not legal BS just itemized information. Refunds are only available for UNSENT email. That means if you put a 50% deposit and we only mail 1/4 of your list, you could be refunded for half of your deposit. The refund policy is also listed in the original post.

    We have our own lists and sources for new data, and do not need to steal yours. :)

    This is not a service for noobs; there are other mailers who are happy to work with the less experienced folks. If anything in the original post doesn't make sense to you, you probably should not use our service.

    We can accept paypal payments if you have a verified account with them, however as I said before the only instance where refunds are issued are for unsent messages if we stop mailing your list either by your request or our decision.
     
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    thanks dextor btw great price $1 per 1,000 emails sent.
     
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  11. Exxtra

    Exxtra Junior Member

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    Members who are trusted on this forum, because members will be basing their decisions based on what reviewers say, they need to be members who others here can trust.

    You can send 50K basic text emails for $50...it's not huge capital requirements. :)
     
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    jujubee3422 Power Member

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    lol i hear ya. dindt know it was so low...


    can someone pm me about this....
     
  13. OTrap

    OTrap Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    LoL You didn't realize that $1.00 CPM meant $50 for a 50K mailout? ;)
     
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    We can't submit an email list to you? It needs to have each and every person's IP address? Not sure how many people on BHW keep that information...

    If I could submit a list of just emails then I would use your service.
     
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    OTrap Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    By the way, I am also fairly interested here. I'd like more information though, if that would be alright. Anywhere I can go to read up on the company?
     
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    lol.. yea i really didnt read through the post.. thats my fault...lol
     
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    OTrap Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Don't worry. I was just ribbing you a bit.

    I do truly hope the OP grants more information in regard to this service. I might have good use of this. I run mostly gray hat, and all my leads are opt-in leads ... about 50% of which are even double-opt-in.

    I'm tired to ESPs failing to keep promises.
     
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    Me too. My interest in using a 3rd party service is to shed the can spam responsibility to someone else.

    If I had their IP's and timestamps (not even sure what timestamp means), it would probably be because I'd be pretty "intimate" with the list (i.e. my own opt-ins I collected) and would just mail them myself with my own mailer or aweber type deal.
     
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    Unfortunately no, because we do not mail scraped lists or lists that were acquired using means not compliant with can-spam. I am sure you could find someone here to mail that kind of list for you using a proxy mailer or botnet...i.e. blackhat method.

    Keep in mind that most CPA networks require you to be can-spam compliant in mailings. While they're not going to police you, if an advertiser gets a few too many complaints the CPA network could give you the boot and withhold any money they were going to pay you.

    You are welcome to PM me and ask me any questions you'd like, or just give the service a try. At $50 / 50K you only need like 1 conversion to break even and 2 to make a profit. :)

    I have granted a "review" blast so once thats done he can post his feedback. If any other members here would like a 10K review "test" drop please PM me. I'd like to hear from some Jr VIPs if any are interested.

    A timestamp is a text string containing the date and time...in the case of an opt-in list, it would be what we use to prove that the person did in fact opt in should we receive a complaint.

    If you are gathering valid email leads it isn't very difficult to build a solid list. You can do so by giving away freebies, having a contest or something like "sign up to find out more" on a website.

    Harvested lists not only have crap response rates compared to a real opt-in list, but a lot of the emails are spam traps, fakes or dead. I'd say over 30% of them are going to bounce at SMTP time, 10% are fake, 10% are dead/throwaways and the rest...who knows. You probably wouldn't even get a single conversion at all with a 50K harvested list drop; you'd need to mail 500K or more just to see any action.
     
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    Send 50K messages for $50!

    Jump-start your week with a quality email blast today! Most orders received before 5PM eastern time will go out on the same day.

    *NEW* Smaller Packages
    15K messages for $25!
    25K messages for $35!

    FREE 10K review samples still available.

    Above package prices are for plain text email and do not include any of the available options listed in the original post.


    Send me a PM to get started!
     
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