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Can someone explain this?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by txholdem, Sep 7, 2009.

  1. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    So much talk about backlink, and page rank and afterall, it's all just a myth?

    I search on G for "outdoor booster" and this site comes up #1:
    http://www.argtek.com/manufacturer/26507/26507.html

    check out the site stats:

    PR: 1
    Alexa Ranking: 1.4M
    domain created: 2002
    site explorer:
    inlink to the page: 18 - all INTERNAL!
    inlink to homepage: 256 - 100% INTERNAL link as far as i can see!
    <meta name="keywords" content="Outdoor Booster manufacturer, Outdoor Booster supplier , Outdoor Booster exporter, Outdoor Booster trader, Outdoor Booster OEM, ODM , Outdoor Booster seller, Taiwan, China, Asia - 26507 - ">
    <meta name="description" content="A specialized manufacturer and supplier of Outdoor Booster in Taiwan. Welcome to visit our website to browse more Outdoor Booster relative products. - 26507 - ">

    so what makes this page #1?
    exact title and meta tags?
    the age of the site?

    So we talk backlink and PR all day long and in the end simple meta tags do the trick?
    Of course i am sure if i have the exactly same meta, i wouldnt rank #1.

    Am I missing something? or is the whole blackhat world is over rated?

    there should be plenty of experts here that can provide some explanations/guesses?

    thanks
    btw, i am curious why when you guys post links here, you add special characters in between? is it because you dont want G to see the site having something to do with blackhat community?
     
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  2. Jcsarokin

    Jcsarokin Power Member

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    Maybe all their links are on pr 6 sites. Link juice is worth more then PR
     
  3. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    they do not even have any external links!

    even more strangely, some links are actually some CSS pages from their site!?
     
  4. Claudiu

    Claudiu Regular Member

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    well from what i see you only provided on page stats and no backlink stats which from what i see you already know it's important.

    my guess is that you already know the answer to your question and you just want to be 100% reassured you will get traffic when getting backlinks.

    well, if this helps .. i'll tell you that you will get traffic to your website if you have backlinks.

    think of the search engines as the real life and you'll understand better how things work. in the real life you need friends to be seen by new people. the more friends you have the more people will see you (meet you).

    the more influential your friends are the more people will also see you as this friends already have many friends of their own and the more you stick with them the more friends of theirs will get to see you.

    hopefully this will help you understand why backlinks are important. without backlinks your site is 0 for google.
     
  5. sk1ll

    sk1ll Junior Member

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    It's not a trafficked keyword at all, 1k searches per month. IT isn't competitive, the sites that are the majority of the 2mm results aren't even going to be really about "outdoor booster" but just have that term somewhere. That site holds some authority for that keyword because it is in their description and G knows they are a manufactuerer.

    If you want too, you can easily outrank them. Make a website, and put outdoor booster in your Title, keywords, meta, ect... Write a few pages of content, include the term outdoor booster (bold, H1, kw optimized).

    That right there would probably put you in the first spot alone, for this kw. If it didnt, get a few backlinks, even crappy ones, with the anchor outdoor booster..

    That would do it..
     
  6. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    the thing about this site is site-explorer shows all inlinks are INTERNAL, NOT external. should that be considered as "friends?" i guess you can be your own friend, but thats not going to get you to meet more friends? :)
     
  7. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    It's not a trafficked keyword - ok. However, when we think about competition, # of searches is not the thing to consider. it is the # of listings that come out of the google search that matter. right? this keyword shows 2.4M listings from google search. is that considered low-competition at all?
     
  8. sk1ll

    sk1ll Junior Member

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    No, that is not true. You can't necessarily take the google search and figure, ok, I have 2.4mm competing websites, because a majority of those websites aren't optimized or competing for the keyword. A better way to look at competition is to analyze the top 20 results and see how strong they are, if they are optimized for that kw, or if they are authority sites (for instance, amazon.com product which if Google can't find a good site about the topic they will put the amazon page up first, but easily outranked)..

    Ect, ect.

    Do a little bit of analysis into the top 20, at face value I can tell that it wouldnt be hard to get on the first page, and I'd be willing to bet #1 position is not too hard at all.