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Can I use iframes to increase clicks & reduce losses in EPC due to Scrubbing?#Affnetworks

Discussion in 'CPA' started by jayabraham, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. jayabraham

    jayabraham Registered Member

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    I work with a few affiliate networks. Never once stepped out of line. However, off late, my EPC has been drastically dropping. It seems like they want to peg me at a fixed EPC. I know for a fact that if they did not scrub, my EPC would be 4 times higher.

    My question is - I have a different website that receives 800+ visitors every day. Can I use iframes there to open up my Tracking URLs in a small 1 pixel or something? That way I would receive 800+ additional clicks on my tracking URL.

    This will help me increase my click count and if they are pegging my EPC to a fixed limit, it would help increase my Real EPC.

    Thoughts anyone on the ethics or plausibility of this scenario?

    I did try and do it, but the affiliate networks have a lot of checks in place to prevent this exact case. How would I get around it?

    Thanks.
     
  2. marusia

    marusia Senior Member

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    You can set up a postback to track your clicks. Why not try other networks if you "know for a fact" you're being scrubbed? There's not much you can do with being scrubbed except bend over and take it or send your traffic elsewhere. Sucks, but it is what it is.
     
  3. antsaoo

    antsaoo Supreme Member

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    Well you can do it. But you need to fake / blank the referrer for those iframed "clicks" or you might get some troubles. Though i really doubt they are shaving to some spesific epc and this would help you.

    The postback is meant to fire when the user completes the offer. I bet when they shave they do not fire the postback.
     
  4. jayabraham

    jayabraham Registered Member

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    The problem is i am on weekly payouts here. To build that level of trust with another network ill take time. Outgoings are high in terms of employee salaries, so weekly payouts is a must.

    The other problem is for email submits with a great Landing Page, I convert one in 2 clicks when the leads are not being scrubbed. At $1.50 per lead, i do 75 cents EPC with no scrubbing. After a few hundred leads, the EPC drops down drastically to 12-15 cents

    Is it possible that converts for the advertiser at the backend at the same rate (of 75 cents per lead) to make them a profit? If not, then the 'fixing my EPC' point might be moot.

    I can do 600-800 leads daily. If only I could find a network or a way to ensure i maintain a decent EPC, I would be golden.
     
  5. jayabraham

    jayabraham Registered Member

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    Yea, I have my doubts about that as well. Most likely they are scrubbing to maintain a profit percentage. Thats what I wanted someone to confirm. If that is indeed the case, then I can send them a million clicks and my real EPC would not improve.
     
  6. Executer

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    so basically the more clicks we send the better the conversion rate will be ?
     
  7. jayabraham

    jayabraham Registered Member

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    I doubt it. I was hoping someone could confirm that here...Nothing concrete yet though
     
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    50% converstion is damn good. No need to iFrame, as you said you have a nice LP. Just rotate different email submits.
     
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    WHat is the network name?
     
  10. jayabraham

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    Conversion has gone down to 20% now. The pixel was being fired after page 1 where only email address was required. It was supposed to fire after page 2 where all the contact details are gathered. As a result, conversion has dropped and EPC has dropped from 75 cents to under 30 cents.

    Rotating different email submits means different affiliate networks. Since I am in desperate need of weekly payouts, it will be a challenge finding multiple networks that are willing to give me that. Right now, working with just one network...
     
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