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Can I Reuse Content From A Deindexed Site?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by JunglePocket, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. JunglePocket

    JunglePocket Registered Member

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    So one of my sites got penalised the other day. Its a shame since the site contained 200 unique articles.

    I was thinking of having the site deindexed via Google webmaster tools.

    If I do this, can I reuse the content for a new site?

    At $5 per article thats $1000 worth of content I dont want to throwaway, so if I could reuse the articles without it being classed as duplicate content, then great.
     
  2. cloudzero

    cloudzero Registered Member

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    You'll be fine. I've proved several times in the warrior forum that the duplicate
    content penalty is a myth. I suggest you build your new site slowly and organically.
    I've found this to be the most effective method over the years... Just a couple of
    pages a day works well for me. I used XSite Pro, imported my articles, and then
    got the software to drip feed new pages.

    HTH

    Glenn
     
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  3. mrjinx

    mrjinx Regular Member

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    You can always spin the content or use some available methods here on the forum to make it more unique.

    jinx
     
  4. Hyperion

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    Take a look at "the best spinner". It's very easy to get your articles unique again that way. I wouldn't take my chances if I were you.
     
  5. JunglePocket

    JunglePocket Registered Member

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    Can you point me in the way of your thread? I would be interested in seeing how you conducted your tests.

    I dont believe that there is a simple yes or no as to whether duplicate content is a myth or not, as there are many variables involved.
     
  6. RAKENSU

    RAKENSU Newbie

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    what do you mean content penalty is a myth?


    maybe you're just get lucky in several times..
     
  7. Gozpy

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    Maybe he means that it is more likely to be a filter than a penalty.
    Anyway, I'm pretty sure Google doesn't keep a database of filtered/bad content, lol.
     
  8. JunglePocket

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    Theres no black and white answer as to whether dupe content penalties exist. Anyone who says so should back up their claims or show me their Google employee badge to show that they work there.

    Since dupe content penalites are a myth, then it would be possible for me to clone the ENTIRE site of Ezine Articles and get my site indexed and ranked right?

    Since dupe content penalites are a myth, then I guess that the scraped site would remain ranked in google FOREVER right?

    Since dupe content penalites are a myth, then these scraped keyword optimised articles would allow me to pick up a LOT OF TRAFFIC like EzineArticles right?

    Since dupe content penalites are a myth, then I could repeat the above process and create multiple scraped autoblogs of sites like Wikipedia, TechCrunch etc receive a ton of traffic and be a VERY rich millionaire since Google doesnt mind if my content is not unique?

    Since dupe content penalites are a myth, then all those article writers out there better start looking for a new way to make money. Why pay for unique content when you can copy it from other sites?

    *IF* duplicate content is just a myth then I would not be sat here writing this post. Neither would there be any discussion ANYWHERE on the internet that debates whether dupe content penalties exist.

    There are NO arguments as to whether building high quality backlinks from related websites will improve a websites SERPS. Why? Because everyone knows that its true. No debate. No discusson. Just fact. Same can't be said for the subject of duplicate content. Reason? The duplicate content issue is not a simple yes or no anwser like some people like to state.
     
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  9. Gozpy

    Gozpy Regular Member

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    Well, why don't you show me your Google employee badge for saying there is a dupe content penalty.
    When people argue against the duplicate content penalty, they don't say Google treat all content equally (dupe or not dupe). They usually mean that Google uses a filter rather than actually penalizing. Therefore, filter or penalty, the answer to your questions would still be no.

    My personal opinion? Yes, the duplicate content penalty is a myth. That doesn't mean Google doesn't act against it. But calling it a penalty is silly.


     
  10. JunglePocket

    JunglePocket Registered Member

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    You say that duplicate content penalty is a complete myth.

    But then you say that Google will take action against dupe content.

    How can you state that its a myth, but then acknowledge that action is taken?

    It proves my original point that the answer is not as black and white as some people like to think.
     
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  11. Gozpy

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    If you read my whole post instead of just the last two lines you would know I already suggested the use of a FILTER rather than a penalty.

    And no, you didn't prove anything...

     
  12. JunglePocket

    JunglePocket Registered Member

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    Whether you call it a penalty or a filter is irrelevant. If action is taken against a site because of using dupe content, then it can be considered both a penalty or a filter. Theyre both the same thing.

    You've already stated that "Google will take action" on duplicate content which totally contradicts your previous statement that the whole thing is a myth. If the whole thing was a myth, why would action/penalty/filter be applied?
     
  13. Gozpy

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    No, it is not the same.
    Your logic is like this:
    You can't fly. I rock can't fly. Therefore you are a rock.
    But that clearly isn't the case, as lots of things can't fly (e.g. humans).

    A penalty and a filter isn't the same. If page A and page B has the same content Google chooses to only show one of them in the SERPs and therefore filters the other one out. And that is NOT a penalty. Therefore people say that the duplicate content penalty is a myth (which was your actual question).

    A penalty is a punishment given to a site that doesn't follow the guidelines. And in the case of Google, a penalty is ONLY given to sites, not pages.

    Then you can say, does it really matter what we call it? Yes, it does! If Google penalized your site you would have to get it approved by them to show up on the SERPs again. But that isn't the case here, is it? Also, if you get penalized it means you have a bad relationship with google. Getting filtered doesn't have the same meaning.

    So before you start hating on those people who say it is a myth, you might want to find out what they mean first instead of just writing some random crap.

     
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  14. JunglePocket

    JunglePocket Registered Member

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    Gozpy, I cant even take you seriously when you say:

    If this isnt contradition, I dont know what is.

    It's like telling your kids that Santa Claus doesnt exist - but then telling them to keep the chimney clear just in case he comes.
     
  15. Gozpy

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    A penalty is a punishment, this isn't. But they still only show one of the pages.

    Have you ever taken care of a baby? You don't punish them if they spit on the floor, but you still clean up after them. Is there a penalty involved?

     
  16. JunglePocket

    JunglePocket Registered Member

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    Why do you continue to avoid my question about your contradictionary statement?
     
  17. Gozpy

    Gozpy Regular Member

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    Eh, what do you think I meant by my last post? I didn't give you parenting advice...

    You don't penalize babies, but you still take action against the consequences of their acts.
     
  18. JunglePocket

    JunglePocket Registered Member

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    WTF about penalising babies? Are you some sort of paedophile?

    Or just doing your very best to avoid acknowledging your hypocritcal statement?

    I will make this very clear for you -

    Do you believe that Google will take any action against a site for using duplicate content found from another site?

    A simple yes or no will do.
     
  19. Gozpy

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    I'm doing my very best to help you understand why people say it is a myth and somehow I end up as the enemy. My example showed you, that you can take action against the consequences of something, even though you are not actually against the act behind it.

    Google say they are against copyrighted material, but they don't seem to take much action against it. Neither do I think Google will show the same page twice, and therefore has to choose between them.

     
  20. JunglePocket

    JunglePocket Registered Member

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    Please dont try and turn this round on me. It was you who stated that I'm "talking random crap" remember? Well perhaps I am. Perhaps you are. Discussion and debate are healthy things to have either way.

    My own opinion is that using duplicate content WILL affect your site SERPS in one way or another. Whether its in the form of a penalty/supplemental results/filter/whatever - action will be taken.

    If it is all one big myth then virtually everyone with a copy of AutoBlogged and half a brain should be a millionaire. But they're not.