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Can I outrank Wikipedia for my micro niche?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by dmmer122, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. dmmer122

    dmmer122 Registered Member

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    Hey guys,

    Ive been working on my site for about 3 weeks now and its finally ranking on the first page. Thing is Wikipedia is rank #1 for my keyword and was wondering if its possible to outrank it.

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  2. sheepswitch

    sheepswitch Newbie

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    Great question! If someone knows, please share tips to outrank authority sites like web-md, wiki etc.
     
  3. transam7410

    transam7410 Power Member

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    get alot of links. eventually youll pass them
     
  4. sheepswitch

    sheepswitch Newbie

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    ^ Thanks. I use Market Samurai and Google keyword tool. Google kw tool shows that my particular keyword has low competition but when I analyze it further on MS, I see lots of RED and the top 4 sites for my kw are authority sites. I really want to rank for this kw, do you guys think I should disregard the red and get to work with that kw?
     
  5. hitch

    hitch Regular Member

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    depends on how much it's worth to you. If you will be able to monetize the site and make $10k / month.. yes, spending a little time on it will be well worth it! However, if the site will only make $100/month I'd just move on to something else and not waste the time.

    I was in a similar situation. Several authority sites ranked really high, I could not move past #4 , even if I did I'd probably only make about $400-$800 from that site. I decided to move on to other niches which I could spend less time on and make the same, or more.

    Good luck.
     
  6. midnight_focus

    midnight_focus Power Member

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    again, Google keyword tool competition is for the ads not the actual ranking sites, it shows you how many advertisers are targeting this keyword for their ads
     
  7. Narrator

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    Is the wikipedia article an exact match to the keyword, or related to the keyword?

    If the wiki article is an exact match, it will be difficult to out rank it. And as others have said, it may not be worth the effort if you are already getting traffic.
     
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    If you really want it bad then you need lots of good authority links :D
     
  9. dmmer122

    dmmer122 Registered Member

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    So its possible, but not worth it...which might as well make it impossible.

    Thanks! lol
     
  10. SilverMovieDownloads

    SilverMovieDownloads Power Member

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    I have been seeing this alot lately
    google keyword tool is not SEO competion
    its advertiser competion.
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    You can edit wikipedia by removing inlinks of the anchor keyword to make it lower in the ranking.
     
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  12. sheepswitch

    sheepswitch Newbie

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    Ah, thanks guys. Valuable information! So the google tool is just to get an idea of how profitable the keyword is?
     
  13. GrizzlyAdams

    GrizzlyAdams Regular Member

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    All serp pages are ranked separately and it is dependent on how many links that specific wikipedia page has that you're trying to outrank, which determines the difficulty.
     
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    SahL Elite Member

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    Its not Impossible, But its very hard.

    you would need alot of HIGH PR backlinks and Social bookmarking.

    The +1s also could help.
     
  15. pavan

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    how to do that ?
     
  16. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    You create an account, and you edit a few things on other pages to help out Wikipedia with good information. Do this for a few weeks. Then after waiting you delete the inlinks and replace them with just the text. But don't do all of them,just a few at a time. And use different accounts with different ips when editing them but make sure to leave a few.

    After a while you will outrank the wikipedia page.
     
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    I did it for a while, but it brings a lot of attention to your site, so be prepared for "human" visit and watch all the BH activities as it may backfire. I'm #3 now and don't push it :D
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    There's a way to blacklist the Wikipedia mods so they see something different. There was a nice tutorial video about doing this,but I dont remember the name of it.
     
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    ..with what intentions do the visitors come when typing in the keyword? I mean if i want to buy something i dont go to wikipedia even though if it might rank nr.1 If i go and look for informations on the product,yeah i would probably go there, so again, whats the intend of the searcher, and how does the Serp snippet compare to the intend?
     
  20. pavan

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    if you wanna buy something then first you would require some information
    then only you are going to buy it
    and you think whoever comes to your site comes with an intention to buy something?
    you have to convince them