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Can I outrank this authority site? Details inside!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dvno879, Nov 24, 2010.

  1. dvno879

    dvno879 Regular Member

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    Alright,

    Very low competition niche, however with around 4k exact searches per month.


    .org is available, however there is a authority site, pr 5, with around 5k backlinks (easy shmeezy to beat in this category), and has a .com of the keyword im after.

    Also it has around 50k + sites indexed by yahoo site explorer.


    What do you guys think? Its the only site in the niche, id be able to rank second easily i would assume, but beating it idk, since i can easily get around 20k backlinks in a 1-2 months, but it is a pr 5 and lots of indexed pages....


    Input?
     
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    schwagoo Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Good question. Subscribed
     
  3. schwagoo

    schwagoo Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    My guess is that 1-2 ranking will eventually come down to the authority of the links of your site versus the authority site, and he relevancy/quality of the page(s) content.
     
  4. krocks

    krocks Registered Member

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    It is very difficult to provide a relevant and accurate analysis without knowing the niche/domain itself. I think it would help if you provided those details.
     
  5. vallento

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    You can always outrank another site. It really doesn't matter what the other site is it all comes down to your onsite SEO, amount of backlinks, quality of backlinks etc.

    When it comes to SEO and ranking good in the SERPs then nothing is impossible - My personal opinion of course.
     
  6. bk071

    bk071 Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Agreed here :)
    You can outrank any site. All it takes is right actions at right times :)

    BK.
     
  7. verilix

    verilix Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Screw PR. I have PR N/A sites ranking above 5yr old PR4+ websites (adult niche), and even Wikipedia articles. Quality content, Authority domain backlinking, and keep at it. Shouldn't be hard with some patience.
     
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  8. blight12

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    You say the .org is avail. Is this the exact match that's avail?
    I have found it easy ranking a exact match keyword domain over mostly any other site.

    Also, is the authority site ranking for the domain or an inner page? Great if inner page.

    If you have both these on your side, id say its "easy" with the right links.
     
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    chlopzmazur Junior Member

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    Yeah you can outrank them but it needs time and hard work. Don't expect quick results.
     
  10. ddungu

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    you can outrank, my advise is, try and fail but don't fail to try!!
     
  11. vedavyas

    vedavyas Junior Member

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    I don't know about you but i can outrank that one with in 4-5 months
     
  12. dvno879

    dvno879 Regular Member

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    They are ranking for their url, their title tag does not have the keyword in it, their url is exact match, same with the .org that I was planning on buying.


    Thanks for your advice!
     
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    dvno879 Regular Member

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    Thanks, but I mean realistically. I dont want to be doing backlinks for the site of mine for years on end!! I want it to be something I can achieve in 1-2 months at the most.
     
  14. dvno879

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    If you guys would like, I can update this thread with results per every 1-3 days with some of the stuff I do with backlinks and my current rank and see if we can outrank it...

    Only if you guys are willing to help out a bit and follow the thread. Let me know!
     
  15. adward

    adward Power Member

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    dvno879, please do it. I would like to know your process since I also intend to go for a hard keyword. Thanks for your helpful info.
     
  16. Bross

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    Everything is negotiable Johnny. Even Google.
     
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    Go for spot two, but have a catchier title. Keep the keyword in it, but have a better selling point mentioned in your title. You won't beat them for awhile, but you can definitely take a nice chunk of the visitors.
     
  18. navimeister

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    Best advice imho. I often use uppercase in my title when I am stuck at #2-5.
     
  19. dvno879

    dvno879 Regular Member

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    Yeah, good advice. Maybe eventually I can just have him buy the site.. hehe sell for fast cash!?