Can i change post url/title without scewing up 4 months of seo?

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I ranked for a kw which took me 4 months but now i have been on the front page for last few days im not getting any clicks like i should be.

I know this because i used to rank for the kw a couple of years ago. its even more traffic than it used to be then so cant be that.

Ive put it down to not having a catchy title and also the title having nothing to do with the kw.

My rational for this was that i recently found out that urls dont matter a shit when you are ranking a page but i forgot to consider that the title will have a big impact on whether someone wants to click or not whether its relevant to them!

I am using wordpress and used post title as the permalinks.

The thing is initially i had just the default wp structure of p=5 whatever. I had done 2 months or more seo using this url. So i then changed it to permalinks of post title and it seemed to redirect fine without any upset to my ranks.

Now that was for the non related title. Last night i figured 'oh i can just change the title again and it will redirrect, no prob!' NO DICE! Since i changed it ive dropped off the map!

When i manually put int the second url it will redirect to the new one but when i try the original p=5 urls it will go to page not found whereas before it would redirect to the second url. So it seems the bulk of my seo has been trashed doing this.

Any suggestions on how to keep the seo cos i prefer not to have to wait another 4 months to rank! Its just about to hit peak season for this kw and im gonna miss it if i dont solve this soon!

Maybe i could keep the old random url and just change the page title so get rid of permalinks just for that page. As the url doesnt matter to viewers its only the title why i think think arent clicking. Ideally id prefer to change url and title without messing up my seo.

Any other solutions to keep the seo while changing the title/url to what i want?
 
Whoa whoa whoa. What did yo think this is? Yahoo answers?

No fuck no you can't change shit without loosing rankings. There'sthe answer yyou wanted.
 
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Lol OP, what's up with those other posts? Plz fuck off and die :) - there's your answer.
 
Lol, calm down OP, you will receive an answer when your post is noticed. You can change you title tags, but retain your main keyword in it.
 
WTF, mad much? So much rage... Be patient, or learn how to do that.
 
It may lose ranking temporarily if you change title. There is almost 95% chance it will come back where it is now,if you ve keyword in title. Add Google+ authorship to increase CTR.
 
i changed everyhting back for now but it hasnt regianed rnakings yet ~:(

if it does ill try making a new page and doing a 301 redirect instead of messing wiht that one again.
 
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I've updated title tags on a monthly basis because the title happened to have the current month in it. At worst I've dropped a few positions for a couple of days, and then I bounce right back.
 
well for me it wasnt jsut a cas eof chanign the url and title i also changed all the text might have had something to do with it :(. tho the new text i thought was way better alot higher quality and on target to the kw. seems google didnt see it that way.

thing is i got away with a change of text last week to the previous text with no hit. who knows really what caused it, just a guessing game like usual.
 
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