Hi, I always thought that if google adds a penalty or ban to your site its for the whole site, all pages, everything? Last few days i noticed this ... My site had the rankings of ... kw1 = page 10 kw2 = page 1 kw3 = page 1 After some xrumer and sb promotion i got the rankings of ... kw1 = page 2 kw2 = page 1 kw3 = page 1 Then i seemed to be hit with a penalty .... kw1 = page 16 kw2 = page 2 kw3 = page 2 Then recently they return back to the original positions of .... kw1 = page 10 kw2 = page 1 kw3 = page 1 Now for the last month they have held the above positions. Then a few days ago kw1 and kw2 disapeared??? kw3 held page 1? The odd thing is that kw1 and kw2 was used in my original xrumer/SB promotions? so is G just banning my kw1 and kw2? The promotions i ran was months and months ago???