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Can an offline copied site with new domain rank?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by groundfalling, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. groundfalling

    groundfalling Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Hi,
    There is a PR4 site which went offline about 2 weeks ago and there are no chances of it coming back live again. I have the site's cached copy, if i register the same domain name with different TLD and copy all the cached data on new domain will google rank this new site or will it consider it a copy when the original site is no longer live?
    To put it in easy words the site xyz.com went offline and i have its content cached copy, if i copy all the content on new domain xyz.net will it rank in google or will google get to know that the content is copied, when the xyz.com does not exist anymore.
     
  2. zagard

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    :1: then it b a brand new site, content alone wont rank it
     
  3. groundfalling

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    and what if the archive of old site is still available. will google get to know that it was copied?
     
  4. remon24

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    No, But i will wait for its urls to be completely deindexed from google before putting the content on some other website
     
  5. hmeister

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    I did this a few weeks ago with a site from a financial services company in England.
    The guy who owned it has gone bankrupt and been banned from being a company director although it had nothing to do with his site - that was ranking on page 1 for a load of terms but the site had been offline for a few months.

    As soon as I heard his news, I knew the site wouldn't be coming back.

    I checked what, if any pages were still indexed by G and there were only a few PDFs but no pages/posts, etc.
    I then went to Wayback and as his site had been going for almost 5 years, there was a load of content.
    I copied most of his content (over 40 pages), added it to my existing 53 pages of content, put it on my new site about 6 weeks ago and only yesterday, the first of what I hope are a few of these, one of the keywords has hit the top of page 2. All of the (new+copied) pages have been indexed, bar 3 pages for some reason.

    I now plan to build a few subtle links to the site.
    So yes, you can do this.
     
  6. lilmasta

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    if xyz.com is dropped you can buy it and redirect it to xyz.net and add all the content you have cached and it might work , there is a chance i could be wrong here
     
  7. FutureProofSeo

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    If the old pages are de indexed. then the new pages are seen as original content.

    If they are still indexed, I would wait for them to be de indexed first, then upload.
     
  8. Beansprouts

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    You can copy but start ranking only after the original website disappears completely from cache.
     
  9. groundfalling

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    I have exactly similar case but what about the content which already exists on wayback? can't G trace the content back to wayback?

     
  10. groundfalling

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    can't afford to buy xyz.com as the owner is asking for way too much.
     
  11. Techxan

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    You can copy it right now and not worry about it, unless you get sued by the content's owner.

    What you are doing is no different than buying a domain, and combining it with one you already have using the new domain name. Done it several times with no ill effect over the long term.

    There is no way you will get hit for a duplicate content penalty over one copy of your content out there.
    Usually people who get hit with a "duplicate content" penalty are low quality sites.

    High quality sites can use dup content almost at will, unless its PLR with thousands of instances, which is in reality a site low quality issue.
     
  12. hmeister

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    Tracing on Wayback? I don't think they can as the actual pages I copied were not in G's index.
    Don't forget, you can even have pages showing in Wayback 10 years after the site has gone offline.
    Plus the fact that all of the pages I have copied the content from are indexed in G and I am starting to see results. And finally, notice I tried this on a new site just to make sure - I would never do it on one of my prized moneysites just in case it didn't work.