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Can a new website rank with just PBN links?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Gold Rush, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. Gold Rush

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    Hi, had anyone successfully rank a new website with only PBN links? I had ranked a web 2.0 (weebly) to google first page with only PBN links but not sure will it works for a new .com domain. Suggestions needed please.
     
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    You need other links for diversity. Although it's possible, I don't recommend using only PBN links.
     
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    Why use only PBN links ? you can do some comment backlinks and some web 2.0 properties as well. In any case PBN links will help your site rank a bit higher, but you should diversify your link building strategy.
     
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    The answer can be "yes" or "no". This depends on how competition of a keyword.
     
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    Sure it can but depending on the entire picture that may be possible. The ranking of a site (actually a KW or KW phrase for a site) has a fair amount of factors to consider.

    Also, you may be able to rank it for a short time with a single dimensional backlinking structure but you would want to build a stronger structure to support the rankings... again that is all dependent on a variety of factors.
     
  7. SteveWaller

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    PBN links are just links at the end of the day so given enough of them you could probably rank for anything. But in truth, you want to be trying to mask any footprint your PBN may be creating so using other links too is somewhat important. By using other links, you can dilute your anchor text ratios and diversify the platforms on which you backlinks appear while the PBN does the majority of the work actually ranking your site.
     
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    I rank quality sites only with PBN. It's safest, but not cheapsest way to get ranked.
     
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    Optimize the onpage well and start with long tail keyword, its mucj more easy to rank a niche site witj PBN.
     
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    btw, how many PBN links does it require to rank a totally new site on 1st page of SERP ?
     
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    Could be 5 for a low competition keyword or 1,000 for a high competition keyword.

    How many links will depend on the quality of the site and level of competition.

    As to the OP's question, yes you can rank a new website with only PBN links.

    I would mix in other links though to give it more of a natural look, as like a good black hatter your PBN links should be cloaked from your competitors anyway.
     
  13. Final Infinity

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    Its definitly possible, we have done it quite a few times before. You just need a lot of pbn links if your competition is higher.
     
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    it is not working for long term, trust me! because site is still new and less diversity.

    i tested back days and site dropped hard eventhough small competition.
     
  15. Final Infinity

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    Honestly, that is BS. I don't know what you have done but you have obviously done something wrong. We have several websites that are ranked with ONLY PBN links and they have been ranked for a long time.
     
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    yes you can, but it fully depends upon the Keyword competition. But don't get too much of links only from PBN.
    According to my opinion try to get combination of High DA links and Niche post links. Surely it will helps you for ranking.
     
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    For easy keywords, would only using Web 2.0 links and/or high PR blog comments work for diversifying?

    I'm thinking of going after a few easy phrases with the power of some PBN links, and use the above for diversification. Do you think it'll be enough for a diverse enough link profile? Again, I'm talking about keywords with very low competition, I just want to cover my tracks in Google's eyes.
     
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    How is it with a brand new website in 2017? I will release one next week. Should I point PBN links to it in the first month? Or is it a waste since there is a newbie sandbox?
     
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    To be honest if you've done your KW research right you shouldn't need PBNs. Web 2.0s should be more than enough to rank. Focus on building diverse safe lunks before heading to PBNs.
     
  20. UnDerDoG81

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    I try to rank in that niche for 8 years. Ok, got penalized back in 2013 with that domain and since than did not do much. I have great content on my old domains. I would say way better than competition. But in this niche, content does not matter. On #1 ranks a site with 100 word content on it and then he has his comparison table of providers.

    And to be honest, I would say content is still overrated. I see shitty websites (in Germany) translated with google translator from english to german and they rank awesomely on #2 and #4 for 10k keywords. I canĀ“t hear that "content is king" anymore. I made a website where I invested 250 hours of work. So much research, created own images and illustrations, I put my soul into that site. 6 weeks I worked day and night, easily 12 hours a day, no weekends off. The front page alone has 4500 words and all hand made images. The whole website has easily 20k words. Released in december. You know what, that site had 13 visitors in almost 4 months.

    BTW. main language is German, so this does not represent the quality I write.