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Can a 30 character domain name hurt SEO?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by deviatus, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. deviatus

    deviatus Power Member

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    I want to get a 30 character domain name. It will include all the keywords I'm targeting, and I'm not worried about getting type in traffic, or people remembering the domain.

    I just want to rank and get Google traffic. But can a long domain name actually hurt SEO, does it set off any red flags? Or could it actually help? Thanks guys.
     
  2. flibbertigibbet

    flibbertigibbet Regular Member

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    No, it doens't hurt SEO. It's actually better if you have many keywords in the domain and the keywords appear not only in the domain, but also the individual page names. :) I have a domain that has 9 words in it (36 characters) and because of the keywords that I've used not only in the domain AND pages, I managed to rank #1 for many keywords with hardly any backlinks. Here's an example of what I mean:

    Say my new domain is 'www.icantbelieveitsnotbutter.info'

    and my pages are:

    no-butter-believe-it-recipes.htm
    can-not-believe-i-love-butter.htm
    believe-butter-is-better.htm
    ect...

    You'll have a better chance of ranking for the keywords:
    "i cant believe its not butter"
    "cant believe"
    "i love butter"
    "no butter recipes"

    and so on and so forth because your file names AND domain name share keywords....

    does that make sense?

    if you have any questions, please feel free to PM and I'll clarify
     
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  3. blackaff

    blackaff Newbie

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    I like short domain names. They seem to do well. If you have too many keywords in
    the domain name Google might filter you our for a while
     
  4. flibbertigibbet

    flibbertigibbet Regular Member

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    Not if you do it right. :) The 39 character domain that I have has been up and ranking at #1 for over a year now. Not once did it disappear or get "filtered" from the search engines...
     
  5. moserw

    moserw Junior Member

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    Google will only count the first 32 characters or so... hence to make sure your keywords count drop the www because the count starts from the http. Otherwise no problems and you will in fact rank better for the long tail keywords.
     
  6. jclz123

    jclz123 Regular Member

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    if its the keyword then it should be fine.
     
  7. Dadelius

    Dadelius Regular Member

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    Like moserw I have reasons to keep mine under 32.... which of course means I'm all for the 30 character limit! :)
     
  8. someguy

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    From a logical standpoint, it should be OK. But I had a similar long domain name (www.keyword1keyword2.com) and it did not rank for search query "keyword1 keyword2" despite strong efforts, which did not result in a ranking in the top100 keywords.

    The domain was not burned, it tried it for 1,5 years and cancelled the domain for being "cursed" ;) I suspect, that it might have something to do with the domain-length..
     
  9. me8626

    me8626 Registered Member

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    I got several long domains and they work great.

    The important here it's optimize your website correctly and use the domain to do it. Actually some of my long domains have good traffic, works as long tail keywords!
     
  10. howard_hughes

    howard_hughes Elite Member

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    I had a domain name which was 31 charecters in length and had 3 hyphens and It ranked pretty well for me under 2 weeks .. so I don't think that could hurt SEO wise.

    However if you are thinking of creating a website for a long term, its better to stay to shorter, catchy names which people will remember in future.
     
  11. littlejohn

    littlejohn Newbie

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    what about separating the keywords used in the domain name with hyphens? does that hurt or help?
     
  12. gapster

    gapster Registered Member

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    While I agree with and tend to follow the shorter the better for domain names, and trying to focus on two maybe three keywords for long tail, my most profitable domain right now is 35 char plus the w's plus the tld. Solid steady ranks for it's keywords (medium level traffic but awsome conversion and dollars).

    The only way to know for sure is to select keywords carefully, research the name history, buy it, build it, develop it, and revise and retest. Then you still have the external influences beyond your control. hmmm... seems just like short names.

    When it comes to resale, shorter draws the crowd, but still will not comand value without traffic and/or profitability.

    Just my two cents.
     
  13. secret agent

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    It's gonna hurt your visitors mind - memory lol :)